Dot product between grad f and an arbitrary vector

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the dot product of the gradient of a function and an arbitrary vector, specifically whether this dot product is equivalent to the directional derivative of the function. The scope includes conceptual clarification and mathematical reasoning regarding differentiation in multivariable calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the dot product between the gradient of a function and an arbitrary vector at a point is the same as the directional derivative.
  • Another participant suggests that the term "differentiating with respect to a vector" is not appropriate, implying a need for clarity on terminology.
  • A third participant emphasizes the need to define the notation df/dv, indicating that the directional derivative is the rate of change of the function in the direction of the vector, independent of the vector's length.
  • This participant also notes that the dot product of the gradient with a unit vector gives the derivative in that direction, while the dot product with an arbitrary vector includes a scaling factor based on the vector's length.
  • A later reply expresses appreciation for the provided links and indicates that the explanation has clarified the participant's understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion shows some agreement on the concept of the directional derivative, but there is no consensus on the interpretation of the dot product in relation to the directional derivative, as participants have differing views on terminology and definitions.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the definitions and implications of df/dv, and there may be assumptions about the context of differentiation that are not explicitly stated.

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Given a function f: R^n -> R, a point x in R^n, and an arbitrary vector v in R^n - is the dot product between grad f and v (evaluated at x) the same as df/dv?

If yes, it would be great if someone were to demonstrate a proof.

If no, what should be the correct interpretation of the dot product?
 
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The first thing you will have to do is define df/dv! I know, for example, Dvf as the directional derivative Defennder refers to- the rate of change of f in the direction of v which is independent of the length of v. The dot product of grad f with an arbitrary unit vector is the derivative in that direction. The dot product of grad f with an arbitrary vector is the derivative in that direction multiplied by the length of the vector.
 
Thanks for the links! It makes sense now.
 

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