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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an elastic collision between two balls with given masses and initial velocities. The objective is to determine the final velocities of the balls after the collision, using principles of conservation of momentum and kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation equations for momentum and kinetic energy, with attempts to express one variable in terms of another. There is confusion regarding the use of matrices in the context of this problem, as some participants question the necessity and appropriateness of that approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about the use of matrices and the overall approach to solving the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding direct substitution of variables, but there is no clear consensus on the method to be used.

Contextual Notes

Participants express anxiety about their understanding of the physics involved, indicating a lack of confidence in their problem-solving abilities. There is also mention of the problem being misinterpreted as a linear system of equations, which may not apply here.

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Homework Statement


As illustrated, a ball of mass m_1=0.25 kg and velocity V_(0_1=+5.00 m/s) collides head on with a ball of mass m_2=0.8 kg that is initially at rest. No external forces act on the balls. If the collision is elastic, what are the velocities of the balls after they collide?


Homework Equations


V_(0_1 )
p_i=p_f
〖KE〗_i=〖KE〗_f



The Attempt at a Solution


m_1 v_(1_i )+0=m_2 v_(2_f )+m_1 v_(1_f )
1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_i )〗^2=1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_f )〗^2+1/2 m_2 〖v_(2_f )〗^2
A ⃑*B ⃑=■(i ̂&j ̂&k ̂@A_x&A_y&A_z@B_x&B_y&B_z )=|■(A_y&A_z@B_y&B_x )| i ̂+
I get a total brain fart once I plug it into the matrix...? :(
 
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bcddd214 said:
A ⃑*B ⃑=■(i ̂&j ̂&k ̂@A_x&A_y&A_z@B_x&B_y&B_z )=|■(A_y&A_z@B_y&B_x )| i ̂+
I get a total brain fart once I plug it into the matrix...? :(

That last line doesn't seem to render well on my computer, but why do you need to plug anything into a matrix? You have:
m_1 v_(1_i )+0=m_2 v_(2_f )+m_1 v_(1_f )

and:

1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_i )〗^2=1/2 m_1 〖v_(1_f )〗^2+1/2 m_2 〖v_(2_f )〗^2

You know v_1_i, and you just need to solve for either v_1_f or v_2_f. Expressing one of them in terms of the other using the first equation, then plugging the result into the second, should give you the result.
 
I am sooo physics paranoid. I hit the table and freeze because I keep getting it wrong for some reason.

A*B=A_x, A_y, A_z= |A_y, A_z|i
_____B_x, B_y, B_z |B_y, B_x|

I get here, I seem to be on a roll, and then just freeze. :(
 
I still don't understand why you're using matricies. What's A and B? Why are you multiplying them together?

You already got 2 equations, and you have only 2 unknowns. Direct substitution should be all you need to get the answer. If you're trying to use Gaussian elimination, it doesn't work because this isn't a linear system of equations.
 

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