Double integral to simple integral

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around transforming a double integral over a triangular region into a simpler integral. Participants are exploring the change of variables technique, specifically using the substitution \( u = x+y \), within the context of a continuous function defined on a specified region in the xy-plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in showing that the double integral can be expressed as a single integral.
  • Another participant suggests changing coordinates to \( u = x+y \) as a potential approach.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the next steps after making the substitution, particularly regarding the integral and the Jacobian.
  • Further clarification is provided that two variables are needed for the transformation, such as \( x+y \) and \( x \) or \( y \), and emphasizes the importance of determining new limits and the Jacobian.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the assistance received in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the need to change variables to simplify the integral, but there is no consensus on the specific approach or the subsequent steps required to complete the transformation.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in determining the Jacobian or the new limits for the integral after the substitution.

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Hello. Can anyone help me, please?

R = { (x,y) [tex]\in[/tex] R² | 0 [tex]\leq[/tex] x [tex]\leq[/tex] 1, 0 [tex]\leq[/tex] y[tex]\leq 1-x[/tex]}

f is continuous at [0,1]

Show that

[tex]\iint_[/tex]R f(x+y) dxdy = [tex]\int_{[0,1]}[/tex] u f(u) du
 
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hi aldrinkleys! :smile:

the obvious thing would be to change to coordinates one of which is u = x+y :wink:
 
I tried to it. But I don't know what to do after.
 
when you tried it, what was your other variable?
 
What I did:

u = x+y
so
x = u-y
y = u-x

x [tex]\geq[/tex] 0
y [tex]\geq[/tex] 0
y [tex]\leq[/tex] 1-x

u-y [tex]\geq[/tex] 0 [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] u [tex]\geq[/tex] y
u-x [tex]\geq[/tex] 0 [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] u [tex]\geq[/tex] x
u <= 1

x [tex]\in[/tex] [0,1]
y [tex]\in[/tex] [0,1]

So

u [tex]\in[/tex] [0,1]

And I don't know what to do about the integral and the Jacobian, etc :(

what to you think about?

Ps: OMG, tex isn't working :(
 
aldrinkleys said:
… and i don't know what to do abou the integral and the jacobian, etc :(

you need two variables:

x+y and x

or x+y and y

x+y and x-y …

make a choice, then find the new limits and the Jacobian! :smile:
 
:!) I'm so happy!

Thank you very much!
 

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