Doubt about Frame Dragging and planetary revolution

In summary, the conversation discusses the effects of frame dragging caused by the counter clockwise rotation of the sun and the possibility of a satellite orbiting in the opposite direction. It is suggested that the satellite would not fall into the sun, but would require a slightly higher velocity for a stable orbit. The equations for calculating the necessary velocity and the difference in proper periods for prograde and retrograde orbits are also mentioned. It is noted that this difference is not dependent on the gravitational constant or the orbital radius.
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SreenathSkr
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Our sun rotates in counter clockwise direction and hence frame dragging will be also in that direction. Suppose if we put a satellite in sun's orbit (almost circular) to revolve in opposite direction to the sun's spin, what would happen to the orbit of the satellite? Would it fall into the sun?
 
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Hmmm... I don't think the satellite would fall into the Sun, but I'm not certain.
 
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Of course, the effect for our Sun is negligible
So it is better to talk about the rotating BH. Black holes (not rotating) have zones where no stable orbits are possible. Rotating BHs have ergosphere where you can rotate only in the same direction with BH. I think the question "what is an area where stable orbits with a rotation opposite to the BH" is a good one and is quite complicated.
 
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You'll probably find that the satellite orbiting against the suns rotation would need a slightly higher velocity. From Kerr metric, the velocity required for a stable orbit at the equator around a spinning object which takes into account frame dragging is-

[tex]v_\pm=\frac{r^2+a^2\mp 2a\sqrt{Mr}}{\sqrt{\Delta} \left[a\pm r\sqrt{r/M}\right]}[/tex]

where [itex]\Delta= r^{2}+a^{2}-2Mr[/itex]

[itex]\pm[/itex] denotes prograde and retrograde orbit, [itex]M[/itex] is the gravitational radius [itex](M=Gm/c^2)[/itex] and [itex]a[/itex] is the spin parameter [itex](a=J/mc)[/itex] which for the sun is approx. [itex]a=0.185M[/itex].

Source- http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0407004 equation 25
 
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Very interesting, Steve... Furthermore, a prograde equatorial orbiting clock and a retrograde orbiting clock would have different proper periods, t, ...
the difference given by ...
(t+) −(t−) ≈ 4πJ/(Mc^2).
And which, remarkably, is not dependent upon G or the orbital radius...as pointed out here: http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9912027
 

1. What is frame dragging and how does it affect planetary revolution?

Frame dragging is a phenomenon predicted by Einstein's theory of general relativity, in which the rotation of a massive object causes a distortion in the fabric of space-time. This distortion can affect the movement of other objects, such as planets, causing them to deviate from their expected paths.

2. Is frame dragging the same as gravitational pull?

No, frame dragging is not the same as gravitational pull. While both involve the influence of massive objects on the movement of other objects, frame dragging is a result of the rotational motion of the object, while gravitational pull is a result of the object's mass.

3. How was frame dragging first observed?

Frame dragging was first observed in 2004 by the Gravity Probe B mission, a NASA space mission designed to test Einstein's theory of general relativity. The mission measured tiny changes in the orientation of gyroscopes orbiting the Earth, which were consistent with the predictions of frame dragging.

4. Does frame dragging have any practical applications?

While frame dragging may seem like a purely theoretical concept, it does have some practical applications. For example, frame dragging can affect the accuracy of GPS systems, so scientists must take this into account when developing and using these technologies.

5. Is frame dragging a widely accepted phenomenon in the scientific community?

Yes, frame dragging is a well-established phenomenon in the scientific community. It has been observed and confirmed through various experiments and is an important aspect of Einstein's theory of general relativity, which has been extensively tested and validated over the years.

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