Doubt about two limits (short)

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The discussion revolves around finding the limits of two expressions involving a function \( f \) as \( n \) approaches infinity and as \( x \) approaches \( a \). The participants express uncertainty about their approaches and whether there are underlying tricks involved in the problems.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants attempt to evaluate the limits using logarithmic properties and l'Hôpital's rule. There is a concern about the simplicity of the solutions and the possibility of hidden complexities. Some participants question the correctness of their reasoning and the notation used, particularly regarding the application of l'Hôpital's rule.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their methods. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance regarding the notation and approach has been provided.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the correct pronunciation and spelling of "l'Hôpital," which may reflect a broader concern about clarity in mathematical terminology.

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Homework Statement


Find the limit of
##1): \displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty}(\frac{f(a+\frac{1}{n})}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{n}}##
##2) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} (\frac{f(x)}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{ln(x)-ln(a)}}(=1^{\infty})##
I am not quite sure if i can solve it the way I did, it has been to easy so there's a trick, I'm afraid

The Attempt at a Solution


##1) \displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty}(\frac{f(a+\frac{1}{n})}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{n}}##
=##\displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty} e^{\frac{1}{n} (log(f(a+\frac{1}{n})-log(f(a)))}##=
=##e^0=1##

##2) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} (\frac{f(x)}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{ln(x)-ln(a)}}(=1^{\infty})##
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} e^{ln(\frac{f(x)}{f(a)}) \frac{1}{ln(x)- ln(a)}}##
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} \frac{ln(f(x))-ln(f(a))}{ln(x)- ln(a)}(=\frac{0}{0})## with de l'Hopital
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} \frac{f'(x)}{xf(x)}=\frac{f'(a)}{af(a)}##
 
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Felafel said:

Homework Statement


Find the limit of
##1): \displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty}(\frac{f(a+\frac{1}{n})}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{n}}##
##2) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} (\frac{f(x)}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{ln(x)-ln(a)}}(=1^{\infty})##
I am not quite sure if i can solve it the way I did, it has been too easy so there's a trick, I'm afraid

The Attempt at a Solution


##1) \displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty}(\frac{f(a+\frac{1}{n})}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{n}}##
=##\displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty} e^{\frac{1}{n} (log(f(a+\frac{1}{n})-log(f(a)))}##=
=##e^0=1##

##2) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} (\frac{f(x)}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{ln(x)-ln(a)}}(=1^{\infty})##
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} e^{ln(\frac{f(x)}{f(a)}) \frac{1}{ln(x)- ln(a)}}##
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} \frac{ln(f(x))-ln(f(a))}{ln(x)- ln(a)}(=\frac{0}{0})## with de l'Hopital
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} \frac{f'(x)}{xf(x)}=\frac{f'(a)}{af(a)}##

The derivative of ln(x) is 1/x.

You have 1/x in the denominator. That becomes x in the numerator. (You could have checked your result with an appropriate example.)
 
Felafel said:

Homework Statement


Find the limit of
##1): \displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty}(\frac{f(a+\frac{1}{n})}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{n}}##
##2) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} (\frac{f(x)}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{ln(x)-ln(a)}}(=1^{\infty})##
I am not quite sure if i can solve it the way I did, it has been to easy so there's a trick, I'm afraid

The Attempt at a Solution


##1) \displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty}(\frac{f(a+\frac{1}{n})}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{n}}##
=##\displaystyle \lim_{n \to +\infty} e^{\frac{1}{n} (log(f(a+\frac{1}{n})-log(f(a)))}##=
=##e^0=1##

##2) \displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} (\frac{f(x)}{f(a)})^{\frac{1}{ln(x)-ln(a)}}(=1^{\infty})##
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} e^{ln(\frac{f(x)}{f(a)}) \frac{1}{ln(x)- ln(a)}}##
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} \frac{ln(f(x))-ln(f(a))}{ln(x)- ln(a)}(=\frac{0}{0})## with de l'Hopital
##\displaystyle \lim_{x \to a} \frac{f'(x)}{xf(x)}=\frac{f'(a)}{af(a)}##

Note: that should be l'Hospital"---like the place with the emergency ward---not "l'Hopital" (although it is pronounced as "lo-pee-tal", with a silent 's').
 
Ray Vickson said:
Note: that should be l'Hospital"---like the place with the emergency ward---not "l'Hopital" (although it is pronounced as "lo-pee-tal", with a silent 's').

I tend to see it as l'Hôpital, so maybe they read l'Hôpital and didn't know how to type an ô?
 
thanks everyone!
 

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