Doubt Regarding Shearing Stresses In a Beam

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of shearing stresses in a simply supported beam subjected to a concentrated transverse load. Participants explore the behavior of shear stress at different points along the beam, particularly at the top and bottom surfaces, and the implications of these stresses on the material's tendency to shear.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the assertion that shear stress is zero at the top of the beam, suggesting that the material should still experience some shearing due to the transverse load.
  • Another participant argues that since the top and bottom surfaces are free, there cannot be any shear stress inside the beam at those points, implying a balance of forces.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in visualizing the concept that material at the top does not tend to shear, despite the load applied.
  • It is noted that shear stress varies along the depth of the beam and follows a quadratic function for a rectangular cross-section, with zero shear at the top and bottom surfaces.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the integral related to shear stress derivation, indicating a different understanding of how shear forces are calculated in relation to moments.
  • Another participant confirms that the integral mentioned aligns with the general approach to deriving shear stress in beams.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of shear stress at the top of the beam, with some asserting it is zero while others question this conclusion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the physical interpretation of shear stress in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for equilibrium in the context of shear stress and its derivation, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made and the specific definitions used in the discussion.

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Lets say we have a beam which is simply supported at the two extreme ends(support conditions don't matter in my question). A concentrated transverse load is applied at the halfway point. Now let's say we take a section at x= L/3 where is L the length of the beam. Now we know that transverse shear stress at that section is max at the neutral axis and minimum(0) at the top. Now I define the axes
x- along the axis of the beam
y- along towards top
z- coming out of the plane of paper
let y vary from t/2 to -t/2. Now take a very small element at the top of the section at y = t/2. Now at this element tau(xY) (shear stress on this face(perpendicular to x axis) in the Y direction) is zero according to " transverse shear stress is minimum(0) at the top". But how is this possible because apparently even at the top the material will tend to be sheared due to the transverse load. How am I wrong? I would really appreciate is someone could help me out.
 
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the surface at top and bottom are free and hence inorder to have forces balanced, on taking a small element at top of the beam ; since there are no shear stresses towards atmosphere there cannot be any shear stress inside.
 
Thank you pukb for your reply.
SO basically its right when i say that the shear stresses in the xy(towards the downward portion) is actually zero. Which means maybe the material out there does not tend to get sheared?
Maybe true but hard to digest. I am having problems as to how to visualize it physically that the material won't be/tend to be sheared. :confused:
 
The shear is only 0 on at the top and bottom surface. For a rectangular cross section, the shear along a line through the beam from top to bottom is a quadratic function.

This is fairly easy to show if you understand stress in 3 dimensions. The axial direct stress varies with the depth of the beam. ##\sigma = My/I## where y is distance from the neutral axis. To maintain equilibrium, the shear has to be the integral of that stress component. The "arbitrary constant" in the integral is fixed by the boundary conditions that pukb described, i.e. the shear is zero at the top and bottom surface of the beam.
 
AlephZero said:
To maintain equilibrium, the shear has to be the integral of that stress component.
Thank you AlephZero for the reply, but could you please elaborate which integral you are talking about. The derivation for shear stress the way I know it is that you take forces due to moments (axial) for a small element in either direction. If the element length is dx the change in moment is dM and this difference in forces in either direction is accounted for by the shear force at that element. So you end up with tau=dM/dx/Ib*(∫ydA) integrated from y1 to C and here b is the width of the element at y=y1. Is it the same thing you are referring to?
 

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