Doubt related to formation of a differential equation

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The discussion revolves around determining the order of a differential equation derived from the function y = C1sin2x + C2cos2x + C3. Participants are exploring the relationship between the number of arbitrary constants and the order of the differential equation.

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  • Participants discuss the method of determining the order based on arbitrary constants, with some questioning the linear independence of the terms involved. There are attempts to differentiate the function and analyze the resulting expressions.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of linear dependence among the terms in the function. Some participants have provided insights into rewriting the function in alternative forms, suggesting a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of arbitrary constants and linear independence, with references to specific methods and transformations that may affect the interpretation of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find the order of the differential equation of y=C1sin2x+C2cos2x+C3.

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I read in my book that the order of the differential equation is equal to the number of arbitrary constants but the answer given is 2.

Btw I have uploaded two pics with two methods I tried.
1st Pic - http://imgur.com/Py7DTgp
2nd Pic - http://imgur.com/5pdcWq1

In first picture, I calculated upto 3rd differential and obtained a differential equation.

In second picture, I differentiated both sides w.r.t. x and then sent the sin2x term, which I was getting in RHS, to LHS and wrote (1/sin2x) as cosec2x. Then I differentiated both sides again w.r.t. x. In this way, both C1 and C2 which remained after calculating 1st derivative become zero.

Which one is correct method? If it's neither, then what's the right method?
 
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cheapstrike said:
I read in my book that the order of the differential equation is equal to the number of arbitrary constants but the answer given is 2.
Your function only has two arbitrary constants. The terms are not linearly independent.
 
Orodruin said:
Your function only has two arbitrary constants. The terms are not linearly independent.
Can you elaborate please? I mean how is C3 not an arbitrary constant?
 
cheapstrike said:
Can you elaborate please? I mean how is C3 not an arbitrary constant?
The functions that they multiply are linearly dependent. You can rewrite ##\sin^2 x## in terms of cos(2x) and a constant.
 
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Orodruin said:
The functions that they multiply are linearly dependent. You can rewrite ##\sin^2 x## in terms of cos(2x) and a constant.
Thanks
 
cheapstrike said:

Homework Statement



Find the order of the differential equation of y=C1sin2x+C2cos2x+C3.

Can you see how to re-write ##C_1 \sin^2(x) + C_2 \cos 2x + C_3## as ##A \cos2x + B##? Working with the latter form is easier.

Note added in edit: I see that once again PF has fooled me, by only displaying post #4 after I pressed submitted my answer.
 

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