Graphing Derivatives: How to Find Maxima, Minima, and Points of Inflection

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This discussion focuses on graphing derivatives to identify maxima, minima, and points of inflection for the function defined by the equation \(x = y^3 + 3y^2 + 3y + 2\). The first derivative \(y' = \frac{1}{3(y+1)^2}\) indicates a vertical tangent at \(y = -1\), while the second derivative \(y'' = \left( -\frac{2}{3} \right)\frac{1}{(y+1)^3}\) confirms that \(y = -1\) is both a stationary and inflection point. The function exhibits strict convexity for \(y > 0\) and mixed behavior for \(y < 0\), with the terminology of convex and concave being clarified in modern calculus contexts.

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  • Understanding of first and second derivatives in calculus
  • Familiarity with concepts of maxima, minima, and points of inflection
  • Knowledge of convex and concave functions
  • Ability to interpret graphical representations of functions
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  • Explore the concept of vertical tangents in calculus
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


First derivative=maxima/minima/vertical tangent/rising/falling
Second derivative=points of inflection/concave upward-downward

The Attempt at a Solution


$$x=y^3+3y^2+3y+2~\rightarrow~1=3(y^2+2y+1)y'$$
$$y'=\frac{1}{3(y+1)^2}>0,~y\neq (-1),~y=(-1)\rightarrow~x=-1$$
So the vertical tangent is at x=(-1)
The second derivative:
$$y"=(-2)\frac{y+1}{3(y^2+2y+1)(y+1)^2}=\left( -\frac{2}{3} \right)\frac{1}{(y+1)^3}$$
The answer, i don't know exactly how to interpret it, is (1,-1)
 
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Karol said:

Homework Statement


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Only 15

Homework Equations


First derivative=maxima/minima/vertical tangent/rising/falling
Second derivative=points of inflection/concave upward-downward

The Attempt at a Solution


$$x=y^3+3y^2+3y+2~\rightarrow~1=3(y^2+2y+1)y'$$
$$y'=\frac{1}{3(y+1)^2}>0,~y\neq (-1),~y=(-1)\rightarrow~x=-1$$
So the vertical tangent is at x=(-1)
The second derivative:
$$y"=(-2)\frac{y+1}{3(y^2+2y+1)(y+1)^2}=\left( -\frac{2}{3} \right)\frac{1}{(y+1)^3}$$
The answer, i don't know exactly how to interpret it, is (1,-1)

For ##y = -1## we have ##x = +1##, not ##x = -1##.

In the region ##y > 0## the function ##f(y) = y^3 + 3 y^2 + 3y + 2## is (strictly) convex, but for ##y < 0## it has mixed behavior: strictly convex for ##y >-1## and strictly concave for ##y < -1##. Here, the modern terminology "convex" is what older introductory calculus books call "concave up", while "concave" is new-speak for "concave down".

The value ##y=-1## is a stationary point of ##f(y)## (derivative = 0), and is also an inflection point (second derivative = 0).

See, eg., https://mjo.osborne.economics.utoronto.ca/index.php/tutorial/index/1/cv1/t
or
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ConvexFunction.html
regarding terminology.
 
Karol said:

Homework Statement


View attachment 212347
Only 15

Homework Equations


First derivative=maxima/minima/vertical tangent/rising/falling
Second derivative=points of inflection/concave upward-downward

The Attempt at a Solution


$$x=y^3+3y^2+3y+2~\rightarrow~1=3(y^2+2y+1)y'$$
$$y'=\frac{1}{3(y+1)^2}>0,~y\neq (-1),~y=(-1)\rightarrow~x=-1$$
So the vertical tangent is at x=(-1)
The second derivative:
$$y"=(-2)\frac{y+1}{3(y^2+2y+1)(y+1)^2}=\left( -\frac{2}{3} \right)\frac{1}{(y+1)^3}$$
The answer, i don't know exactly how to interpret it, is (1,-1)
I assume that in taking the second derivative you are trying to determine whether the arc lies to the left or the right of the tangent.
You might find it easier to swap x and y and ask whether it is a local maximum or local minimum. How do you resolvethat when the second derivative is zero?
 
$$f(y) = y^3 + 3 y^2 + 3y + 2~\rightarrow~y'=3(y+1)^2,~y'=0~\rightarrow~x=(-1)$$
$$y(-1)~\rightarrow~x=(-1)$$
The y'=0 line that is parallel to the y-axis is vertical to the x.
The graph is:
15.png
 
Correction:
15.png
 
No, thank you Ray and Haruspex
 
I think your calculations might have been easier and your result more obvious to you, related perhaps to something already familiar or known, perhaps all visible in a trice rather than the forgettable result of a slog if you had rewritten 15 as
$$x=\left( y+1\right) ^{3}+1$$
Nowhere is there any law btw forcing people to always portray x as horizontal and y as vertical!
 
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