Drawing Questions: Pen Alternatives & Color Additions

[Moonbear]

You stashed them, perhaps, as bitmaps? Normally those work okay, but I couldn't see some here until Evo converted them to jpegs. Doesn't make sense why I can access them on some sites and not on others.

They're both jpegs. I think it's an issue with the image tags linking to the server they're on. Here, I've copied them as direct links instead of with the image tags. See if this helps:

http://www.subkultures.net/img/2207/e728226c54a8081at.jpg
http://www.subkultures.net/img/2207/1a4e51e676c3cbe4t.jpg

 

[Danger]

See if this helps:

Thanks for the effort on my behalf, but both flagged me with "FORBIDDEN You don't have permission to access"... etc.. I'll just have to wait until he's famous and buy the prints.

 

[JamesU]

try logging out and clicking on the links

 

[zoobyshoe]

well, here's something i did...
http://www.memetika.com/media/341_409_193025155lGDJUB_fs.jpg

This is the kind of "abstract" art I like. Lots of energy and detail, and which displays actual drawing skill.

 

[Danger]

try logging out and clicking on the links

Thanks, but no go. I tried it and still got the same message.

 

[JamesU]

hey. BT, is that actual or non actual abstract art?

 

[zoobyshoe]

Okay, here's my lame drawing from this afternoon.

This is an actual, realistic sketch. Not bad at all for the time you spent on it. I assume if you worked on it longer it would become bolder and easier to see (It's on the faint side as is).


Like Danger, I can't seem to see S. Ape's attachments.

 

[Gale]

This is the kind of "abstract" art I like. Lots of energy and detail, and which displays actual drawing skill.

thanks... i don't know how skillful i am, but i try. i didn't get to take any art classes in high school, kinda sucked. i hope maybe to take at least one or two in college. I'm glad no one's said bad things, I'm seriously very uptight about my drawings... i get odd when i express myself like that...


anyways, i did like moonbear said and attempted to quote s'ape, and then entered the addresses in my browser. They are small, but very good.

 

[Moonbear]

Thanks, but no go. I tried it and still got the same message.

Hmm...odd. Try opening another window for some other site, like google, and then paste in the address from there. Sometimes sites get funny about direct links from here, though you'd think we'd all have that problem if that was the issue. It's a shame, because his drawings are really very good. One is of an alien sitting in front of a pyramid and the other is of a nude, winged woman.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

This is the kind of "abstract" art I like. Lots of energy and detail, and which displays actual drawing skill.

I agree. You've got some talent there Gale. So do you have any artistic aspirations or are you really mostly just interested in math?



And sorry again Danger. I tried to make them attachments but this computer is a piece of junk and won't let me.

 

[Moonbear]

This is an actual, realistic sketch. Not bad at all for the time you spent on it. I assume if you worked on it longer it would become bolder and easier to see (It's on the faint side as is).

Yeah, I don't really do the abstract thing. I like looking at abstract are, but I'm not good enough to see something in my head and draw it, so need to draw while looking at something. I tend to sketch very lightly because I'm rather tentative about pressing too hard and not being able to erase cleanly. I never considered going back over something and darkening it. It's worth a try while I'm dabbling to see if I can improve.

 

[Danger]

Hmm...odd. Try opening another window for some other site, like google, and then paste in the address from there.

That's even weirder. Both of those addresses took me to something called 'The Search Machine'. First time I hit the 'close window' button and then returned here using 'go'. When I hit the 'back' button instead of the 'close window' one the second time, IE quit.

 

[Moonbear]

I agree. You've got some talent there Gale. So do you have any artistic aspirations or are you really mostly just interested in math?



And sorry again Danger. I tried to make them attachments but this computer is a piece of junk and won't let me.

I don't know what this is going to do to the quality, but they're small enough files that I can attach them for you. Though, we'll have to wait for Evo to come around (I'm not sure if she's still on this late).

 

[zoobyshoe]

I tend to sketch very lightly because I'm rather tentative about pressing too hard and not being able to erase cleanly. I never considered going back over something and darkening it. It's worth a try while I'm dabbling to see if I can improve.

What people do is sketch lightly in regular pencil, do all the erasing they need to do with that, then when everything's all composed and nice, go back with great courage and boldness with the colored pencils.


What brand of colored pencils do you have?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Evo, that's good, especially considering her age at the time.

 

[Danger]

I don't know what this is going to do to the quality, but they're small enough files that I can attach them for you.

Right on! That worked, and they're well worth waiting for. In this case, I put them into Illustrator to enlarge them. Very nice. You're right about the winged one, Stats. I appreciate a woman who's equipped with her own down comforter.

 

[Moonbear]

What people do is sketch lightly in regular pencil, do all the erasing they need to do with that, then when everything's all composed and nice, go back with great courage and boldness with the colored pencils.

Ah...guess I haven't built up that courage yet.

What brand of colored pencils do you have?

Promise you won't laugh? Crayola I think. I didn't get them at an art store, they're just cheap pencils. Maybe I should get some good quality pencils to finish the drawing now that you're inspiring me to keep playing with this.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I don't know what this is going to do to the quality, but they're small enough files that I can attach them for you. Though, we'll have to wait for Evo to come around (I'm not sure if she's still on this late).

I can see them now!

Not bad at all. Fantasy/Sci Fi style and content. Actual drawing skill, and a nice sense of lines.

 

[Gale]

I agree. You've got some talent there Gale. So do you have any artistic aspirations or are you really mostly just interested in math?

mostly i adore math, but i appreciate the arts very much. I like to draw, i write a bit, and i love my guitar.

I don't know what this is going to do to the quality, but they're small enough files that I can attach them for you. Though, we'll have to wait for Evo to come around (I'm not sure if she's still on this late).

go moonbear! that works now. stat-ape owes you now.

What people do is sketch lightly in regular pencil, do all the erasing they need to do with that, then when everything's all composed and nice, go back with great courage and boldness with the colored pencils.

i like pen because i can't erase, so i can see all the stages my work went through, and i have to think carefully about each mark. if i want white... i have to be careful. i like that. i wish i was bold enough to use color... i had a very traumatic experience in second grade...

...i did a project on nile crocodiles.. and i drew this great croc and i drew every single scale and shaded and everything, i mean, it was really really good, i skipped recess even cause i wanted it perfect. then my teacher said i had to color it in... i picked up a green crayon, and slowly watched as all my hard work was completely covered up. i cried. I've been scared of coloring ever since.

 

[zoobyshoe]

...i did a project on nile crocodiles.. and i drew this great croc and i drew every single scale and shaded and everything, i mean, it was really really good, i skipped recess even cause i wanted it perfect. then my teacher said i had to color it in... i picked up a green crayon, and slowly watched as all my hard work was completely covered up. i cried. I've been scared of coloring ever since.

I had two traumatic experiences with color! My first grade teacher came over and humiliated me in front of the class because I used grey on a tree trunk (the damned grey tree was right outside the window for everyone to see) and told me there must be something wrong with me: wood was brown, everyone knew that!

At home later, I was painting a tree with brown paint, as per instructions, and my mother comes over and says I'm way too sloppy with the paint, and can't I do better than that! I was seven or something. I didn't touch color again till I was about 35.

Now when I do colored pencil doodles, say at a coffee house, people stop and ask me where I sell them and how much I charge.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I don't know what this is going to do to the quality, but they're small enough files that I can attach them for you. Though, we'll have to wait for Evo to come around (I'm not sure if she's still on this late).

Wow Moonbear! Very nice.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Promise you won't laugh? Crayola I think. I didn't get them at an art store, they're just cheap pencils. Maybe I should get some good quality pencils to finish the drawing now that you're inspiring me to keep playing with this.

Crayola and the other cheap colored pencils for kids are the inventions of SATAN[/size].

Go to the art store and get the set of 12 Sanford Prismacolor colored pencils. (Don't get the watercolor pencils by accident). You will see how rich and smooth they are compared to the kiddi-colors. They are worth the high relative price.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Wow Moonbear! Very nice.

Those are by StatutoryApe, not moonbear.

 

[zoobyshoe]

i like pen because i can't erase, so i can see all the stages my work went through, and i have to think carefully about each mark. if i want white... i have to be careful. i like that. i wish i was bold enough to use color...

The good thing is that you have excellent "boldness" with what you're doing right now. At your age I was more like moonbear: very tentative with all the lines, afraid of making a mistake I couldn't fix. The result was always too faint. Somewhere along the line I did a chaotic flip and now everything is as bold as I can make it.

The non-eraseing thing in your first drawing is one of the things that gives it motion and energy. I think I like that one the best because you filed up most of the space. There's more to look at, keep your interest, per square inch. I like that kind of stuff.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Those are by StatutoryApe, not moonbear.

Okay, that makes much more sense!

I was really wondering about the theme...

 

[zoobyshoe]

This is a drawing by my favorite abstract colored pencil artist, Steve Schutz:

Address:http://www.communitywordproject.org/auction_tour_18.htm

I have a book here at the brush shelter with three more of his drawings and I think he does really exiting stuff.

 

[Moonbear]

Crayola and the other cheap colored pencils for kids are the inventions of SATAN[/size].

Go to the art store and get the set of 12 Sanford Prismacolor colored pencils. (Don't get the watercolor pencils by accident). You will see how rich and smooth they are compared to the kiddi-colors. They are worth the high relative price.

Hey, I told you not to laugh. I don't draw seriously, it's just something that keeps my hands occupied from time to time to keep me out of trouble. I recall having better brands that did come out a lot nicer when I was in Jr. High (that's when we learned to do shading and got to fill entire pages with shapes...mine was all overlapping tubes and looked like a plumbing project gone horribly wrong!) Hmm...I'm wondering if stores are open today. Everything's open on holidays anymore, right? Well, if it isn't, it won't kill me to go take a drive anyway. I think I'll head over to the craft store (the real art store probably won't be open, and there's a festival in that direction that creates a parking nightmare) and see if I can find myself some decent pencils. It's a rainy day today anyway, so there isn't much else I can do of the stuff I had planned for the day.

 

[necessary]

you can use cigarettes fire for your paper edges..really it is very nice image,and different...
in addition .. once ı used my nail polishers to creative different image.