Drop test of an object, are my physics right?

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The original poster is investigating the physics of drop testing an object with a complex geometry from a set height using a free-falling rig. The discussion revolves around the energy equations related to free fall and the effects of mass and friction on the impact energy when the object is dropped in different orientations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the energy equations of free fall to the rig setup, questioning how mass affects the impact energy and whether terminal velocity should be considered. Some participants highlight the distinction between testing the object alone versus the rig-object system and raise concerns about the impact energy and force estimation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the physics involved in the drop test. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of including the rig in the testing setup and the factors that influence impact performance, but there is no explicit consensus on the original poster's approach.

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There are discussions about the effects of friction, mass, and the moment of inertia on the drop test outcomes. The original poster is also considering constraints related to maintaining a specific velocity during the drop.

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Hi, I will keep this short and sweet.

I am drop testing an object of complicated geometry froma set height in 10 different orientations.
Due to the complexity I decided to make a free falling rig where it slides (via roller bearings for example) when released.

Simple freefall analysis using energy equation from dropping it at a set height h:

mgh=1/2m(v^2)

v = √2gh


Falling attached on the rig:

Mgh - Fh = 1/2M(v^2)

where M is mass including the attachment and arm. and -Fh is friction energy lost from the bearing rolling/sliding down the rig. (i want to keep it within 2% of freefall velocity so will need to find a coefficient of friction which allows this)


However we can see the mass doesn't effect the velocity, doesn't the mass change the force/energy it hits the ground with?

Hence:

mgh(freefall) = mgh(rig)

So solving for the height will give me the height at which the object will hit the floor with the same energy/force.

Is this right?

Due to terminal velocity, would I need to solve for this as well ?


Thanks.

I have attached a diagram to help.
 

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When you attach the rig to the object you are no longer drop-testing the object, you are drop-testing the rig-object system.

Stand on the desk. Jump off. That wasn't too bad was it? Now try it with a load strapped to your back.
 
I know that hence why I said where the Mass of the 2nd equation is the mass of the object AND rig and that friction must be included.

You didn't answer my question at all.
 
Even if you eliminate the friction, the velocity will be the same but energy will not. The energy depends on the mass.
So the body on the rig will have more energy at the impact, assuming zero friction.
The force of impact is harder to estimate. The rig may change the impact time so the force will change in a quite unpredictable way.
 
dt00073 said:
You didn't answer my question at all.
That's because I am trying to help you and the answer to your question won't help you.

If you are interested in how the object performs when receiving an impact of a certain energy from a certain direction then the best way to control and measure this is to hold the object still and drop a weight onto it.

If you are interested in how the object performs in the real world when dropped from a certain height you need to bear in mind that this depends on a number of factors including the moment of intertia of the object, the horizontal distance of the impact point from the centre of mass, the rate of deceleration etc. all of which you change by fixing the object in a rig.
 

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