Dry ice -- How do the stores keep it from evaporating?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how stores manage the sublimation of dry ice, particularly focusing on the methods used to prolong its lifespan compared to home storage. Participants explore various storage mechanisms and temperature management in retail environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how stores prevent dry ice from sublimating, noting that their home storage results in quicker evaporation.
  • Some participants assert that stores do not prevent sublimation but manage it differently.
  • It is suggested that stores may run their refrigerators at lower temperatures to extend the life of dry ice.
  • Another participant mentions that local stores use heavily insulated boxes without refrigeration to store dry ice.
  • There is a discussion about the effectiveness of using a deep freezer for storing dry ice, with some suggesting it could work as an insulated storage solution.
  • Concerns are raised about the handling of dry ice due to its extreme cold and potential health risks associated with carbon dioxide buildup.
  • One participant expresses curiosity about the specific machines used by retailers like Walmart for storing dry ice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how dry ice is stored in stores, with multiple competing views on the methods and effectiveness of different storage techniques remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the temperature at which dry ice sublimates and discuss the implications of heat flow into storage units, but do not resolve the specifics of these technical claims.

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Ok, how do stores keep dry ice from sublimation(i think i spelled that correctly) or evaporating?

Are the coolers at my local walmart some sort of special type of mechanism?

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They don't.
 
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Bystander said:
They don't.
How do they keep it longer than i can at my house? a 5lb block is gone with in 30 hours, but yet, at the store, a 5 pound block has been in there for a while.
 
The store runs its refrigerators at a lower temperature.
 
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The store runs its refrigerators at a lower temperature.

so your saying the cooler that they store the dry ice in is a powered refrigerator, like a meat freezer? thus keeping it longer? So if i put in a deep freezer, with no other food, would that be ok then?
 
The coolers I've seen locally (Southern californias) in the retails stores are just very heavily insulated boxes, no power or refrigeration used at all.

The plants that make the dry ice are a whole nother story! (they must have one heck of an electric bill!)
 
Leading to this.
Dry ice sublimates at 194.65 K (−78.5 °C; −109.3 °F), at Earth atmospheric pressures. This extreme cold makes the solid dangerous to handle without protection due to burns caused by freezing (frostbite). While generally not very toxic, the outgassing from it can cause hypercapnia (abnormally elevated carbon dioxide levels in the blood) due to buildup in confined locations.
 
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Thats a good read. I have red it in the past. I was just curious how my walmart stores it and what type of machine they use. Next time I am there, ill take a peek at it
 
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LT72884 said:
so your saying the cooler that they store the dry ice in is a powered refrigerator, like a meat freezer? thus keeping it longer? So if i put in a deep freezer, with no other food, would that be ok then?
It will keep your freezer nice and cold.
The freezer will just act as an insulated storage box, with the motor not coming on until just about all the dry ice has sublimated. That depends of course on how big a chunk you put in there. A certain amount of dry ice has to sublimate to counter the heat flow into the freezer.
 
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Leading to this.
Well, you can handle it as the dry ice does not conduct heat very well. Just don't put it down someone's back as a stupid joke, or squeeze a chunk in your fist.
 
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LT72884 said:
Thats a good read. I have red it in the past. I was just curious how my walmart stores it and what type of machine they use. Next time I am there, ill take a peek at it
I didn't know Walmart or any other retailer had dry ice for sale to the public. We usually has to buy the bags from the "dry ice company". My guess is that they buy it in bulk every week and just store it some out of the place area.
 

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