Dynamics and Circular Motion Problem

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a tetherball swinging around a vertical pole, with a focus on calculating the tension in the supporting ropes. The ball has a mass of 2 kg, swings at 8 m/s, and the ropes are at a 30-degree angle from vertical. Initial calculations for tension using free body diagrams yield conflicting results, indicating a misunderstanding of the forces involved. Key errors identified include not accounting for different tensions in each rope and neglecting the mass times centripetal acceleration in the horizontal force balance. The thread emphasizes the importance of accurately representing forces in free body diagrams for solving dynamics problems.
Joseph Hotto

Homework Statement



A 2 kg tetherball swings around a vertical pole attached to two ropes each at a 30 degree angle from vertical. Each supporting rope is 1.5 meters long, and the ball travels at 8 m/s long.

Homework Equations


The question doesn't ask what they're looking for, so I assume they are looking for the tension of the rope.
- Tension is split into a Tx and Ty component
- We draw two free body diagrams, one with a birds eye view and one with a table view.

The Attempt at a Solution


ΣFy = Tcosθ - mg
0 = Tcos(30) - 19.6
Tcos(30) = 19.6
19.6/cos(30) = T
22.6 = T

ΣFx = Tsinθ - mg
0 = Tsin(30)-19.6
0.5T = 19.6
T = 39.2

R = L * sin(30 degrees)
R = 1.5 * 0.5 = 0.75 m

- Did I do anything wrong so far?
 
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Joseph Hotto said:
Did I do anything wrong so far?
Yes. You did not consider that the tensions in each rope are different.
 
You omitted the mass times centripetal acceleration in the horizontal force balance.
 
Perhaps draw a free body diagram for the ball.
 
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