Dynamics: Planar Kinetics of a Rigid Body(Work and Energy)

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The problem involves the dynamics of a garage door assisted by springs, focusing on the determination of spring stiffness required for the door to come to a stop when transitioning from an open to a closed position. The subject area pertains to planar kinetics and energy considerations in rigid body dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for variables such as the mass and height of the door, questioning what information is necessary for solving the problem. There are considerations about gravitational potential energy and its changes as the door moves, as well as the relationship between spring potential energy and spring stiffness.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights into energy conservation and the role of springs, while others are questioning the relevance of certain parameters like the angle of the spring connection.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the completeness of the problem statement, particularly concerning missing variables that may affect the solution. Participants are also considering the implications of ignoring friction and external forces in their analysis.

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Homework Statement


The operation of this garage door is assisted using two springs AB and side members BCD, which are pinned at C. Assuming the springs are unstretched when the door is in the horizontal (open) position and ABCD is vertical, determine each spring stiffness k so that when the door falls to the vertical (closed) position, it will slowly come to a stop. Use approximate numerical values to explain your result.

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Where do I start? And can anyone please provide me with a guided solution?
 
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naynaitmus said:

Homework Statement


The operation of this garage door is assisted using two springs AB and side members BCD, which are pinned at C. Assuming the springs are unstretched when the door is in the horizontal (open) position and ABCD is vertical, determine each spring stiffness k so that when the door falls to the vertical (closed) position, it will slowly come to a stop. Use approximate numerical values to explain your result.

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Where do I start? And can anyone please provide me with a guided solution?

Are there any variables missing from the problem statement, such as the mass of the door, the height of the door, length of BC and angle of ABC? Many of these variables might not be necessary if the initial length of BC (as shown in the picture) is very small, which it looks to be (it's difficult to tell from the picture though). But I think one way or another you're going to need variables for the height and mass of the door. (They don't necessarily need to numerical with units, but you'll need variables to express them in your final answer.)

Anyway, from what I gather from the title of this thread, I'm guessing that you are supposed to ignore friction and any external forces, and assume that conservation of mechanical energy holds.
  • What's the difference in gravitational potential energy of the door between its up and down positions?
  • Given that the door starts from rest (when open) and ends at rest (when closed), what does that tell you about the difference in Kinetic energy between its up and down positions?
  • Therefore, how much energy must the springs absorb?
  • How does the potential energy held by a spring relate to k? (And don't forget that there are two springs involved with this problem.)
 
1. The mass of the door, the height of the door, length of BC and angle of ABC should be given abitrary values.

2. Gravitation potential energy would be larger when it's opened and smaller when it's closed due to the height.

3. The difference in linear Kinetic energy would be zero and only the kinetic energy existing would be the 1/2Iw^2 ?

4. The springs must absorb the total of both the kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy of the door when it's closed.

5. Potential energy due to spring 1/2kx^2

Did I get it right?
 
naynaitmus said:
3. The difference in linear Kinetic energy would be zero and only the kinetic energy existing would be the 1/2Iw^2 ?
Well, if the door "slowly comes to a stop," I think we can ignore the final rotational kinetic energy just as well as the linear kinetic energy.
 
One final question, how does the angle ABC come into play though?
 
naynaitmus said:
One final question, how does the angle ABC come into play though?
I don't think it does really, if the initial BC is short (when the door is up). It's just a little difficult to tell for sure from the picture.
 
I think ABCD makes the angle, with B being the end point of the spring and C being the end point of the arm connecting one another. But yes, thanks a lot though I'll figure it out from here :)
 

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