Easy problem dealing with tension and mass of an object.

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The problem involves a box on a frictionless ramp, held at rest by a tension force. The mass of the box is given as 20 kg, and participants are discussing how to calculate the tension force acting on the box.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss calculating the force of gravity and using trigonometric functions to find the tension force. There are attempts to relate the calculations to the problem's requirements, with some questioning the correctness of the initial calculations and the relationship between the normal force and the components of gravitational force.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations related to tension and normal force. Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the forces acting on the box, while others have raised questions about the assumptions made in the calculations.

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Participants are considering the implications of different angles of the ramp on the tension force and normal force, and there is a focus on ensuring that all components of the forces are accounted for in the analysis.

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Homework Statement


The box on the frictionless ramp is held at rest by the tension force. The mass of the box is 20kg. What is the value of the tension force?

Homework Equations


sine=opp/hyp cosine=adj/hyp F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Did 20*9.8 to get the force of gravity on the object (196N). Then I took the cosine of 30 and got .866. I then divided 196 by this and got 226N for the hypotenuse. Is this correct? Thanks!
DIAGRAM:http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6927/diagramu.png

EDIT: So, the Newtons needed to hold it when the slope is 0 would be 196. I also found the Newtons for it at 89 degrees, which was about 11,000. So, according to my math, the tension force is 226N. Now I just need to find the normal force. Any ideas?
 
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epicwinning97 said:

Homework Statement


The box on the frictionless ramp is held at rest by the tension force. The mass of the box is 20kg. What is the value of the tension force?

Homework Equations


sine=opp/hyp cosine=adj/hyp F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Did 20*9.8 to get the force of gravity on the object (196N). Then I took the cosine of 30 and got .866. I then divided 196 by this and got 226N for the hypotenuse. Is this correct? Thanks!
DIAGRAM:http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6927/diagramu.png

Each of those calculations is correct, but now you have to relate them to the question.

EDIT: if the angle of the slope was 0o what value would you get from your calculations, and what tension would be needed to keep the mass in place?
 
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Mmmm... I did the same problem and got 98 N for tension. Remember that the direction of normal force is perpendicular to surface, and it isn't antiparallel to the force of gravity. You have to find the components of the force of gravity, too.
Add all components and set it equal to zero, since it is at rest.
 
The normal force is equal to a component of the force of gravity. (Try to find out which one:))
 

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