Eccentric rotation of a trebuchet arm

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The original poster is constructing a mathematical model of a trebuchet's throwing mechanism, focusing on the relationship between potential gravitational energy and rotational kinetic energy. They note that the pivot point of the arm is positioned 8 cm above the arm itself, leading to questions about how to account for this eccentricity in their calculations of energy changes and moment of inertia.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the relation ΔE_p = E_k but acknowledges the need to adjust their model to account for the eccentric pivot point. They seek equations relevant to this setup. Some participants suggest visual aids to clarify the design and configuration of the trebuchet.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the pivot point's position and its effect on the energy dynamics of the trebuchet. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further clarification and potential adjustments to the model based on the eccentricity of the arm.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that their model does not include the sling, which may simplify the analysis but also limits the completeness of the model. There are indications that the equilibrium position of the arm may affect the energy transfer during the throw.

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If the word eccentric is not used correctly, please correct me.

Homework Statement


I am constructing a mathematical model of trebuchet throw. For the throwing part, I simply use the relation [tex]ΔE_p = E_k[/tex], so the change of potential gravitational energy goes into the rotational kinetic energy. I succesfully built the model, but it is oversimplified in at least one point, the arm does not rotate around a point that is "included" in it, but the pivot point is 8 cm above it. What equations can I use to calculate the changes in potential gravitational energy of such body and its moment of inertia?

Homework Equations


That's my question

The Attempt at a Solution


I have a complete model of the situation assuming the pivot point is included in the arm, but have no clue how to make it eccentric.
 
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How hard would it be to sketch and scan what you are talking about, or to google image search and find something close to what you have. I'm not clear what you have and a picture is worth a thousand words. Is it built like the following?



or this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hCyQIWmzS8&feature=related
 
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Consider the equilibrium configuration of your design when you let it go, it will be significantly less then vertical. The arm will only move about 45 degrees, 90 degrees for the other design. The large mass moves less vertically so your projectile has less energy.
 

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