Effect of conductor orientation on transmission line ampacity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effect of conductor orientation on the ampacity of high voltage transmission lines, specifically at 138 kV. Participants explore how various factors, including the orientation relative to North, solar radiation, and environmental conditions, may influence the ampacity.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • MrBuggy observes that the orientation of the conductor relative to North affects the ampacity of transmission lines and seeks an explanation for this phenomenon.
  • One participant suggests that the Earth's magnetic field might influence current flow based on the conductor's orientation, proposing a connection between magnetic fields and ampacity.
  • Another participant explains that line direction impacts the amount of solar radiation received, noting that an East-West orientation generally yields a more conservative ampacity rating compared to North-South, particularly during certain times of the day.
  • A different viewpoint posits that the effect on ampacity may be more related to the angle of the sun rather than the magnetic field.
  • One participant reflects on the significant power from solar radiation impacting long lines, indicating a learning moment from the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the primary factors affecting ampacity, with some attributing it to solar radiation and others considering the role of the magnetic field. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact influence of these factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various conditions such as solar angle and geographic latitude, which may affect the conclusions drawn about ampacity, but these factors are not fully explored or quantified in the discussion.

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Hi guys,

I was playing around with conductor configurations and observed this phenomenon. Mind you these are for the High voltage transmission (138 kV) lines that span kms. So apparently, the orientation of the conductor relative to North will change the ampacity of the transmission line. Can anyone explain to me why this is the case? I mean it makes sense to me how the wind, elevation, latitude and etc. would affect ampacity as it tells us the sag, and how the sun hits the conductor.

Thanks,
MrBuggy
 

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Hmmmm...good question. Here's a random, somewhat educated guess:

I know there some giant magnetic field in regards to the Earth. Also being parallel with the poles (north) as opposed to being perpendiclar to poles (East, West) must have some effect on the wire.

If there is some rotating magnetic field from the poles or somewhere else, that can increase or decrease current flow.
Now someone really smart can answer:)
 
The line direction determines, in part, the amount of solar radiation received by a given conductor. It is used to
calculate the angle of incidence of solar radiation. EDSA provides two choices for line direction: north-south
and east-west. Line direction is normally a parameter of little interest. If you use a sun time of noon for your conductor evaluations, you will find that an assumed East-West orientation will yield a slightly more conservative result than an assumed North-South orientation. If you use an other sun time between 10 A.M. and 2 P.M., an
assumed East-West orientation will yield a slightly more conservative rating unless your latitude exceeds
roughly 55 degrees north, where an assumed North-South orientation becomes slightly more conservative.
Obviously, if you select ‘Night’ as your sun time, it makes no difference what you select for line direction.

http://www.poweranalytics.com/designbase/pdf/Bare_Wire_Sizing.pdf page 12.

For example when the sun is due south, an E-W line "sees" more sunlight per unit length of line than a N-S line, unless the sun is directly overhead.
 
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Or it could have absolutely nothing to do with the magnetic field and everything to do with the angle of the sun.
Missed it by that much...
 
At 1kW/sqm, there's a lot of power falling on a long line; makes you think. That's another thing I just learned on PF.
 

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