Effect of frequency & Intensity on number of photons

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The discussion revolves around the effects of changing the wavelength of electromagnetic radiation on the number of electrons ejected and their maximum kinetic energy when the intensity remains constant. The problem is situated within the context of quantum mechanics and the photoelectric effect.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore differing interpretations of how the number of photons relates to intensity and energy as wavelength changes. There is confusion regarding the implications of constant intensity on the number of ejected electrons.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the differing viewpoints presented by their teachers. Some express agreement with one interpretation while questioning the validity of another. The discussion is ongoing, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

The problem is constrained by the requirement that intensity remains unchanged, which is central to the differing interpretations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Electromagnetic radiation of wavelength λ and Intensity I, when incident on a metal surface, causes n electrons to be ejected per unit time. The maximum kinetic energy of the electrons is Emax.

State and explain the effect, if any on n and Emax when the wavelength λ is reduced but the intensity I is unchanged.

Homework Equations


E=hf, and I'm not sure what else

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved this question with 2 different teachers, the first said that n will not change as I is unchanged. The other said that n will reduce because:
number of photons=Intensity/energy of 1 photon
I trust both teachers so I'm really confused now.
 
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Nancee said:
The other said that n will reduce because:
number of photons=Intensity/energy of 1 photon
I think that one of your teacher's misread the question because this is faulty logic. The question explicitly states that the intensity remains constant.
 
Hootenanny said:
I think that one of your teacher's misread the question because this is faulty logic. The question explicitly states that the intensity remains constant.

I happen to agree with that teacher and disagree with the first one!


yes, the intensity stays the same. But if you decrease lambda, you increase the energy of each photon.
Therefore, in order to get the same intensity there must be fewer photons present. Therefore fewer electrons will be ejected.
 
kdv said:
I happen to agree with that teacher and disagree with the first one!


yes, the intensity stays the same. But if you decrease lambda, you increase the energy of each photon.
Therefore, in order to get the same intensity there must be fewer photons present. Therefore fewer electrons will be ejected.
You are of course correct, scratch what I said. I apologise for any confusion. Perhaps it's time for a rest... :redface:
 

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