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Effects of a vacuum/ the expansion of the universe is accelerating

  1. Jun 30, 2013 #1
    This is my 'virgin' attempt at intercourse in this venue, so please be roughly gentle.
    (I.E.; this is my first post, I'm a bit slow (intellectually) but willing to learn. I tend to be somewhat playful in how I use words. I hope you will forgive me if I step outside the boundaries of appropriate decorum).
    My question concerns the relationship between the effects of a vacuum and the expanding universe. Outside the event horizon of the theoretically known universe (if I'm not being too presumptuous) it would seem, to me, reasonable to suppose a void or vacuum. Would it not therefore seem reasonable to expect an accelerating expansion of said universe due to the combined effects of Newton's law of gravity within the confines of a void/vacuum?
    Thank you for sharing you insights.
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  3. Jun 30, 2013 #2
    there is no outside the universe, their is outside the observable universe. We do not know if the universe is finite or infinite. Expansion describes the increase of commoving distances, we can choose any 3 coordinates and trace its expansion history.

    The site at my signature has a good article to help you out.

  4. Jul 1, 2013 #3


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    Cosmologists do not believe there is an 'outside' to the universe.

    I don't see how. The average density of space results in very very little pressure that would cause an expansion. The integalactic medium has something like a couple of hydrogen atoms in every cubic meter of space, so they effectively never collide with each other. Also, newtons law of gravitation is only attractive, so I don't see how it could have anything to do with an accelerating expansion. Besides, we KNOW newtons law of gravitation is wrong, as General Relativity more accurately describes the observed gravitational effects.
  5. Jul 2, 2013 #4
    There is no reason to presume that what lies beyond our limit of observation differs from what we see within the "observable universe". What we see is a uniform density of matter and radiation (over reasonably large scales) hence cosmologists presume the same continues beyond the observational limit. That is called the "Cosmological Principle":

  6. Jul 4, 2013 #5
    Hi stepson.....This forum is for discourse; intercourse may be found elsewhere. USe discretion the lords of the forum can be strict!!

    Hoover, Dyson, Orek et al need not apply here.

    There IS something in an 'empty' vacuum. Turns out the energy there, called dark energy, also called the cosmological constant, has a negative pressure....an expansionary effect that causes large scale distance to increase. Right now that expansion is accelerating.

    A decent introduction is here:


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