Efficient Calculation of a Complex Sum with Multiple Components

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The discussion revolves around calculating the sum $$ \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{k(-1)^k}{2^k} $$, which involves alternating signs and powers of two. Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including attempts to separate the sum into simpler components.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to rewrite the terms to facilitate calculation, while others question the validity of separating the sum into multiplicative components. There are discussions about manually adding the terms versus using a calculator, and whether a general formula could be derived.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various perspectives on the best approach to the problem. Some participants suggest that simply writing out the terms and adding them is the most straightforward method, while others explore the implications of using a general formula or derivatives. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple interpretations are being discussed.

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Participants mention constraints such as not being allowed to use a calculator and the expectation to perform the calculations manually. This influences the approaches taken in the discussion.

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The problem
I want to calculate the following sum
$$ \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{k(-1)^k}{2^k} $$

The attempt

I wrote ## \frac{(-1)^k}{2^k} ## as ##\frac{1}{(-2)^k}##. I was hoping that I could calculate the sum ## \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{k(-1)^k}{2^k} ## by multiplying the sums ##\sum^{5}_{k=2} k## and ## \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{1}{(-2)^k}##, but I was wrong (wolfram).
 
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Rectifier said:
The problem
I want to calculate the following sum
$$ \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{k(-1)^k}{2^k} $$

The attempt

I wrote ## \frac{(-1)^k}{2^k} ## as ##\frac{1}{(-2)^k}##. I was hoping that I could calculate the sum ## \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{k(-1)^k}{2^k} ## by multiplying the sums ##\sum^{5}_{k=2} k## and ## \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{1}{(-2)^k}##, but I was wrong (wolfram).
What is the sense to multiplying the sum with an other sum?
Just write the terms from k=2 to k=5 and add them.
 
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Rectifier said:
I wrote (−1)k2k(−1)k2k \frac{(-1)^k}{2^k} as 1(−2)k1(−2)k\frac{1}{(-2)^k}
This part looks fine to me.
Expanding thus sumation would give
(2 (-1)^2)/2^2 +(3 (-1)^3)/2^3 ... (5(-1)^5)/2^5

You can see here that we can not separate out ∑ k as a multiplication factor. Therfore you cannot calculate the two sums separately then multiply them. I think if you are allowed a calculator it would be easier to just substitute in the numbers into the expansion.
 
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I am not allowed to use a calculator. It looks like we are supposed to add these manually without using any specific formula. Thanks for your help.
 
NihalRi said:
This part looks fine to me.
Expanding thus sumation would give
(2 (-1)^2)/2^2 +(3 (-1)^3)/2^3 ... (5(-1)^5)/2^5

You can see here that we can not separate out ∑ k as a multiplication factor. Therfore you cannot calculate the two sums separately then multiply them. I think if you are allowed a calculator it would be easier to just substitute in the numbers into the expansion.
@Rectifier ,

Let's put NihalRi's expression into LaTeX and do some very basic simplifying.
##\displaystyle \frac{2 (-1)^2}{2^2} +\frac{3 (-1)^3}{2^3}+\frac{4 (-1)^4}{2^4} +\frac{5 (-1)^5}{2^5} \ ##

##\displaystyle \frac{2 }{4} -\frac{3 }{8}+\frac{4 }{16} -\frac{5 }{32} \ ##​

It's not that difficult without a calculator, now is it?
 
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I agree that just writing out the terms and adding them is the best approach. If you want a general formula however, then take the derivative of ##\sum_{k=1}^n x^k##.
 
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Rectifier said:
The problem
I want to calculate the following sum
$$ \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{k(-1)^k}{2^k} $$
I don't see what the difficulty is here. All that's needed here is to add four numbers.
Rectifier said:
The attempt
I wrote ## \frac{(-1)^k}{2^k} ## as ##\frac{1}{(-2)^k}##.
I was hoping that I could calculate the sum ## \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{k(-1)^k}{2^k} ## by multiplying the sums ##\sum^{5}_{k=2} k## and ## \sum^{5}_{k=2} \frac{1}{(-2)^k}##, but I was wrong (wolfram).
 
Thank you for commenting but I have marked this question as solved some time ago.
 

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