MHB Efficient Method for Extracting Square Root of Complex Expressions

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The discussion focuses on extracting the square root of a complex expression without expanding it. Initially, there is confusion about whether the task involves factoring or finding a square root. The solution involves substituting variables for parts of the expression, simplifying, and ultimately expanding to reach a factorable form. The final result shows that the square root of the original expression can be expressed as the product of two binomials. The conclusion emphasizes that expansion was necessary to solve the problem effectively.
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Hello!

Is there a way to extract the square root of this expression without expanding? Please teach me how to go about it.

$4\left((a^2-b^2)cd+ab(c^2-b^2)\right)^2+\left((a^2-b^2)(c^2-b^2)-4abcd\right)^2$

I tried expanding it and it was very laborious and I end up not getting the correct answer.
 
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Hello,
I don't see a square root in the expression. Are you asking us how to factor the expression?
 
suluclac said:
Hello,
I don't see a square root in the expression. Are you asking us how to factor the expression?

Hello! This problem is from a book and it says that I have to extract the square root of the expression.
 
Does the problem from the book say
4((a² - b²)cd + ab(c² - b²))² + ((a² - b²)(c² - b²) - 4abcd)²?
 
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suluclac said:
Does the problem from the book say
4((a² - b²)cd + ab(c² - b²))² = ((a² - b²)(c² - b²) - 4abcd)²?

Here's the screen shot from the book.
 

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I'll take that as a no.
 
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Hello!
I just finished solving the problem!

Here is how I solved it

I let $(a^2-b^2)=x$ and $(c^2-d^2)=y$

Now we have

$4(xcd+yab)^2+(xy-4abcd)^2$

expanding the terms

$4x^2c^2d^2+8xyabcd+4y^2a^2b^2+x^2y^2-8xyabcd+16a^2b^2c^2d^2$

Simplifying

$4x^2c^2d^2+4y^2a^2b^2+x^2y^2+16a^2b^2c^2d^2$

By using factoring

$x^2(4c^2d^2+y^2)+4a^2b^2(y^2+4c^2d^2) = (x^2+4a^2b^2)(4c^2d^2+y^2)$

Substituting the value of x and y$\left((a^2-b^2)^2+4a^2b^2\right) \left((c^2-d^2)^2+4c^2d^2\right)$

By expanding and some simplifications

$(a^4+2a^2b^2+b^4)(c^4+2c^2d^2+d^4)$Both factors are square of binomials

$(a^2+b^2)^2(c^2+d^2)^2$

Taking the square root

$(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)$

I guess expansion is really necessary in this problem.

 
Correct.
 
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