Eh? How do I solve xe^(a/x) = b?

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation xe^(a/x) = b, where a and b are given constants. The context relates to charge carrier density in semiconductors, leading to a transcendental equation that participants are attempting to solve for x.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the nature of the equation, noting its transcendental characteristics and the lack of an algebraic solution. There are discussions about numerical methods versus analytical approaches, with some questioning the correctness of the equation itself.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants confirming the complexity of the problem and acknowledging that numerical solutions may be necessary. There is recognition that the problem is not trivial, and some guidance has been offered regarding the use of numerical approximations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific values for a and b, as well as references to related problems in their homework set that may require similar numerical approaches. There is also a note about the difficulty of finding a solution without numerical methods.

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Eh? How do I solve xe^(a/x) = b?

Homework Statement



xe^(-a/x) = b, where a and b are numbers that are given and I'm trying to solve for x.

The Attempt at a Solution



All I can think of are Taylor series, which won't work in this case because a is ~4000 and b = ~0.1, so I'd need to expand to a lot of terms.

I could try to do it numerically, but would rather not... I know the answer ends up being ~520.
 
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You have a transcendental equation here, with no algebraic solution. Are you sure this is the correct equation?
 


Yes. I'm trying to solve the equation that's in the book.

It's for charge carrier density in a semi-conductor

n^2 = B*T^3*exp(-E/kT)

Where n, B, E, and k are constants that are given. So I divide by B, then cube root it to obtain T*exp(-a/T) = b

A similar problem is later on in the homework set, where the professor says to calculate it numerically. I mean, the problem is identical except you first have to find n with another equation, then you're back to that. But he makes no mention of calculating it numerically here.

I think, though, that he still wants us to, because like you said, no easy solution. It would take a team of Russian mathematicians in one of Russia's finest Gulag's at least a year to find the solution*. I'll just do this numerically also. In the least I needed confirmation that it's not a trivial answer. Thanks.

*I'm taking a shot in the dark here.
 


There is actually no possible way of expressing that number in terms of commonly known constants. It would only take, however, someone with a big ego typing onto Physicsforums to define, eg, The GibZ Constant, whose definition is the unique solution to the above equation, numerically approximately *blah blah*. Those are your options, but in the end, for a "useful" answer you'll need a numerical approximation, no way around it.
 

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