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The discussion centers around the concepts of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions within the context of quantum mechanics, specifically relating to the particle in an infinite square well. Participants explore the definitions, mathematical formulations, and implications of these concepts, as well as their connections to linear algebra and differential equations.

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  • One participant states the eigen equation Aψ = λψ, identifying A as an operator, ψ as an eigenfunction, and λ as an eigenvalue, and seeks clarification on the terminology.
  • Another participant explains the origin of the term "eigen" from German, relating it to linear algebra and generalizing the concept to linear operators, providing examples of eigenvalue problems.
  • A third participant suggests that the wavefunction should include a time-dependent factor eiωt and discusses the energy operator as ih∂/∂t, relating it to the eigenvalue hω.
  • Subsequent posts inquire about the specific operator in the context of the infinite square well, with one participant identifying the Hamiltonian as the relevant operator and noting its form in this scenario.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the operators involved and the definitions of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. There is no consensus on the specific operator's identification, as some participants provide different perspectives on the Hamiltonian and its role in the eigenvalue problem.

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The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the definitions and applications of operators in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to boundary conditions and dimensional considerations in the infinite square well scenario.

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I know that the eigen equation is given by [tex]A\psi =\lambda\psi[/tex] where A is an operator and [tex]\psi[/tex] is an eigen function and [tex]\lambda[/tex] is an eigen value.
For the particle in an infinite square well of width L the wavefunction is given by [tex]\psi (x)=\sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{n\pi x}{L})[/tex] and the energy is given by [tex]E=\frac{n^2h^2}{8ml^2}[/tex]
I want to know why [tex]\psi[/tex] is called eigen function and E is called the eigen value.
 
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From German eigen, meaning "distinct", "particular", "[one's] own".

It comes by analogy to linear algebra. If a vector [tex]\vec{v}[/tex] is such that when you multiply a matrix A, by it, you get back the same matrix multiplied by some scalar (lambda):
[tex]\mathbf{A}\vec{v} = \lambda\mathbf{A}[/tex]
Then [tex]\vec{v}[/tex] is an eigenvector of A, and [tex]\lambda[/tex] the corresponding eigenvalue. Any linear algebra textbook will tell you all about it.

This concept can be generalized to linear operators (matrix multiplication being a linear operation). For a linear operator [tex]\hat{O}[/tex], and a function f, if:
[tex]\hat{O}f = \lambda f[/tex]

Then f is an eigenfunction of [tex]\hat{O}[/tex], and [tex]\lambda[/tex] is again the corresponding eigenvalue. If you have a given operator and some boundary conditions, and wish to find the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues for it, then that's called an "eigenvalue problem".

For instance, the differential operator [tex]\hat{D}^n = \frac{d^n}{d x^n}[/tex] is a linear operator.
So differential equations, such as [tex]\frac{df}{d x} - \lambda f(x) = 0[/tex] are eigenvalue problems.
 
hi roshan2004! :smile:

(have a psi: ψ and a lambda: λ and a pi: π and a square-root: √ and a curly d: ∂ :wink:)

your wavefunction should also have an eiωt factor

the (energy) operator A is ih∂/∂t (where I'm writing h for h-bar = h/2π),

so the (energy) eigenvalue is hω

(which just happens to be h(nπ/L)2/2m = h2n2/8mL2

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_well" :wink:)​
 
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Thanks, but in this case I couldnot find operator here, which is the operator in this case?
 
roshan2004 said:
Thanks, but in this case I couldnot find operator here, which is the operator in this case?

The Hamiltonian. The time-independent Schrödinger equation is simply the eigenvalue problem for the Hamiltonian.
Also, since V = 0 and you only have one dimension in the infinite square well, the Hamiltonian in that case is just the second-order differential operator (multiplied by [tex]-\hbar/2m[/tex])
 

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