Elastic Collision: Find Velocity of 2 Bodies

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The discussion focuses on solving two elastic collision problems involving a steel ball and a block. For the first scenario, the conservation of energy principles are emphasized to determine the initial velocity of the ball just before the collision, suggesting the use of gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy equations. The second question involves calculating the center of mass speed after an elastic collision, highlighting the importance of not just applying formulas but understanding the underlying concepts of momentum and energy conservation. Participants are encouraged to think critically about the physics involved rather than simply plugging in numbers. Overall, the conversation promotes a deeper understanding of elastic collisions and the relevant equations needed to solve such problems effectively.
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1. A steel ball of mass 0.400 kg is fastened to a cord 60.0 cm long and fixed at the far end, and is released when the cord is horizontal. At the bottom of its path, the ball strikes a 2.00 kg steel block initially at rest on a frictionless surface. The collision is elastic.

Assuming the positive direction is to the right, find, just after the collision,
Velocity of the ball
Velocity of the block

I don't know how to start this one, never the less do it.

2. A body of mass 2.4 kg makes an elastic collision with another body at rest and continues to move in the original direction but with one-fourth of its original speed. The struck block has a mass of 1.44kg.

What is the speed of the two-body center of mass if the initial speed of the 2.4 kg body was 4.5 m/s?

I plugged in the numbers into the equation (m1v1+m2v2)/(m1+m2) and got 3.234375 which I know is wrong. Don't even know how I got v2.
 
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First, a bit of a tip. When looking at a physics problem, don't limit it to a problem of just one concept (i.e. conservation of momentum); as you'll see, these problems you posted are about more than just one concept, so you can't just plug and chug equations willy-nilly (think about each situation and the relevant equations for those situations. Only then should you plug :) )

For the first question- think about conservation of energy. What's the energy of the steel ball at the beginning? Is it gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, what? And what's the energy at the bottom, when it crashes with the block? If you consider these questions you'll be able to find the initial velocity of the ball during the collision. If the collision is elastic, kinetic energy is conserved. So, use conservation of momentum and conservation of kinetic energy to wrap everything up :).

Once you get that one let's discuss question 2.
Have fun
 
At the beginning, I believe it has GPE, and when it hits it has KE, but i don't know how to find the initial velocity. I have been looking over my notes from class for quite some time, but I am just not seeing the right equations. Could you give me a bit of a hint?
 
Yep, you're right. Initially, it's just standing still at some height so it will have energy equal to mgh. Afterwards (if we set the point of zero GPE to be the maximum downwards extension of the rope, or the point where the collision occurs) it will only have KE for the collision, equal to 1/2mv^2. Remember that energy is conserved, and you should be able to find it.
 
I have to stop working for now, so I don't want to make you wait for nothing. You have helped with what you told me though, so thanks for that.
 
No problem! If you need any more help don't hesitate to ask.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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