Elastic Collisions and Harmonic Motion

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a ball dropped from a height of 10 meters and its behavior upon elastic collision with a hard surface. Participants are examining whether this motion can be classified as simple harmonic motion or periodic motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the definition of harmonic motion and whether it applies to the scenario described. There are discussions about the nature of acceleration during the ball's motion and the implications of elastic collisions on the type of motion exhibited.

Discussion Status

The conversation is exploring various interpretations of the motion, with some participants suggesting that the motion is periodic but not simple harmonic. Others are providing reasoning based on the definitions and characteristics of harmonic motion.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the assumptions made regarding air resistance and the nature of acceleration during the ball's descent and rebound. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the classification of the motion, indicating a lack of clarity on the definitions involved.

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Homework Statement


A ball is dropped from a height of 10 meters onto a hard surface so that the collision at the surface may be assumed elastic. Under such conditions the motion of the ball is
(A) simple harmonic with a period of about 1.4 s
(B) simple harmonic with a period of about 2.8 s
(C) simple harmonic with an amplitude of 5 m
(D) periodic with a period of about 2.8 s but not simple harmonic
(E) motion with constant momentum


The Attempt at a Solution



I would assume that since its an elastic collision, that it would engage in simple harmonic motion, but the answer is D so evidently that is not the case. Anyone care to explain?
 
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You must have a definition of Harmonic motion somewhere in you textbook.It really isn't hard to find out if that definition does apply.
 
the acceleration is not directly proportional to the displacement but a constant acceleration (assume there is no air resistance)
there is no equilibrium position between the extreme ends... (as well as force= 0)
and the direction is downward besides at the pt where the ball rebounces...
it is periodic motion, since the collision is elastic .i.e. energy(KE) is conserved.
by s=ut+1/2at^2
s=5t^2
t = sqrt 2=1.41 , representing the time for "half motion"
T=1.41*2=2.82 s
 
mysqlpress said:
the acceleration is not directly proportional to the displacement but a constant acceleration

so it isn't harmonic motion. The acceleration isn't constant when the ball bounces
of course. If "movement with constant acceleration" was a question, I'd have to
answer no.
 
kamerling said:
so it isn't harmonic motion. The acceleration isn't constant when the ball bounces
of course. If "movement with constant acceleration" was a question, I'd have to
answer no.

Indeed, these three factors are just provided you as explanations :)
 

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