Electric and Magnetic Fields: A Proton's Motion

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a proton in a gravity-free space and the implications of electric and magnetic fields on that motion. Participants are examining the validity of various conclusions regarding the presence of these fields when the proton moves with constant velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of having both electric and magnetic fields present, particularly in relation to the concept of crossed fields. Questions arise about the validity of the conclusions presented, especially regarding the magnetic field's effect on the proton's velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the conditions under which the magnetic field may not affect the proton's motion, particularly when aligned with the velocity vector. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of gravity-free space on the behavior of charged particles in electric and magnetic fields.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, particularly the definitions of electric and magnetic fields and their interactions in the context of a charged particle moving at constant velocity. There is a noted confusion regarding the role of gravity-free conditions in this scenario.

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Homework Statement


A proton moves with constant velocity in a certain region of gravity-free space.Which one of the following conclusions is valid?
A)There must be no electric field or magnetic fields in the region.
B)There could be an electric field without any magnetic field.
C)There could be a magnetic field without any electric field.
D)There can be an electric field as well as magnetic field.

Homework Equations


Force on a charged particle=(charge on particle)× (Vector cross product of it's velocity vector and Magnetic field vector)
F=qE,for a particle in an electric field.
If the 2 fields(magnetic and electric) are perpendicular to each other,then they are said to be crossed fields,and their effects cancel out each other.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know D is correct for sure,that's what crossed fields is all about.
If we apply an electric and a magnetic field at right angles to each other,their effects cancel out each other and the velocity of the particle will remain unaffected.
But,the answer is given (C), (D)

How is C valid?
A magnetic field,on it's own should change the direction of the particle(hence changing it's velocity).
Hence,my problem.. (does it have something to do with gravity free space??)
Help appreciated..
 
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Tanishq Nandan said:
How is C valid?
A magnetic field,on it's own should change the direction of the particle(hence changing it's velocity).
Consider the formula you stated for the force due to the charge moving through a magnetic field. Why are there vectors involved? :wink:
 
Ooo...ok,thanks
 
Tanishq Nandan said:
Ooo...ok,thanks
OK. What is your overall conclusion ?
 
SammyS said:
OK. What is your overall conclusion ?
Well,I didn't notice that if you place a magnetic field in the direction of the particle's velocity,the net force on it becomes zero(Cross product of two parallel vectors is zero),and there is obviously no electric field involved.So,C is also correct,hadn't thought of that before
 
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Tanishq Nandan said:
Well,I didn't notice that if you place a magnetic field in the direction of the particle's velocity,the net force on it becomes zero(Cross product of two parallel vectors is zero),and there is obviously no electric field involved.So,C is also correct,hadn't thought of that before
Excellent !
 

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