Electric dipole and Gauss' Law

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The discussion centers on the application of Gauss' Law in relation to electric dipoles. It is established that while the total charge enclosed by a Gaussian surface around an electric dipole is zero, resulting in zero net flux, this does not imply that the electric field intensity at a point is also zero. The participants clarify that Gauss' Law is most effective for symmetric charge distributions, such as planar, cylindrical, or spherical symmetries, and that electric field intensity due to a dipole cannot be directly calculated using Gauss' Law due to its lack of symmetry. Instead, the electric field can be determined by calculating the contributions from each charge of the dipole individually and applying the principle of superposition.

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  • Understanding of Gauss' Law and its mathematical formulation.
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We have an electric dipole. Now, let us draw a Gaussian surface around our electric dipole. Now, the total charge enclosed by our Gaussian surface is zero, so according the Gauss' Law the flux through the Gaussian surface is zero, and so is the electric field intensity due the electric dipole.

But, when we apply Coulomb's Law, we get an expression for electric field intensity at a point due to an electric dipole.
So, my question is-

Am I going wrong somewhere in applying the Gauss' theorem?
If not, why are we getting this difference in the solution to this problem?
 
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net flux=0 does not imply field strength=0 at a particular point.
 
Rainbow said:
the flux through the Gaussian surface is zero, and so is the electric field intensity due the electric dipole.

No... the flux through the Gaussian surface is zero, and so the net flux outwards (through some portions of the surface) equals the net flux inwards (through other portions of the surface).
 
\int_{0}^{2\pi}{\sin\left(x\right)}dx = 0, but that does not imply sin(x) is zero for all values in the interval.
 
jtbell said:
No... the flux through the Gaussian surface is zero, and so the net flux outwards (through some portions of the surface) equals the net flux inwards (through other portions of the surface).

So, then how do we find the electric field intensity at a point due to an electric dipole using the Gauss' Law?
 
Its not easy to calculate E.Field due to dipole using Gauss Law. It is because you'll have to choose a gaussian surface such a way that you are able to calculate the E.Field there. Remember Gauss's law basically tells about the flux and *not* of E.Field.
 
Rainbow said:
So, then how do we find the electric field intensity at a point due to an electric dipole using the Gauss' Law?

I don't think you can, at least not directly. At least I've never seen it done. In order to use Gauss's Law to find the electric field, the arrangement of charge has to be symmetric enough that you can infer the direction of the electric field at all points. Then you construct a Gaussian surface which makes evaluating the integral easy. A dipole doesn't have enough symmetry for this.

However, you can of course find the field of each charge individually, using Gauss's Law, which of course gives you Coulomb's Law. Then add the two fields using the principle of superposition.

All the situations where I've seen Gauss's Law used to find the electric field have either planar, cylindrical or spherical symmetry.
 
You can use Gauss' Law only in places where you have symmetric uniform charge distribution as in case of dipole there is no symmetry so you cannot .Remember we use Gauss' law for Sphere's Cylinder's because there is Uniform charge distribution and Symmetry.
 
Thank you for helping.
 
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According to de broglie relation lambda=h/mv ...which implies that vrlocity is inversely proportional to wavelength. But According to the reletion

V=n lambda ... velocity is directly proportional to wavelength... How That diffenence is Causesd ? Am i going wrong Somowhere ?
 

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