Electric Field from Long Hollow Cylinder

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss's law to analyze the electric field generated by a long hollow cylinder. The original poster seeks clarification on how to demonstrate that the electric field inside the cylinder is zero and that the field outside behaves as if all charge were concentrated along the axis. Additionally, there is a question regarding the validity of these statements for a hollow pipe with a square cross-section and uniform surface charge density.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of Q in Gauss's law and its implications for solving the problem. There are inquiries about calculating the electric flux and the meaning of the double integral in the context of the Gaussian surface. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the application of the equations and the interpretation of differential area elements.

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Some participants have offered guidance on reflecting on Gauss's law and suggested considering the symmetry of the problem to simplify the evaluation of integrals. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical concepts involved, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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The original poster indicates a lack of understanding regarding specific terms and concepts, such as the double integral and the differential area element, which may affect their ability to progress in solving the problem.

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Homework Statement



Consider the hollow cylinder from Exercise 1.59. Use Gauss’s law to show that the field inside the pipe is zero. Also show that the field outside is the same as if the charge were all on the axis. Is either statement true for a pipe of square cross section on which the charge is distributed with uniform surface density?

The cylinder is long.

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I have no idea how to do this problem. Can somebody walk me through it? I’m assuming I have to use the second equation here, but I’m not quite sure what some of it means or how to apply it.
 

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If you take a moment to reflect on what exactly Gauss' Law says, and in particular what Q is defined to be, then you should be able to make a good attempt at solution, if not solve the problem entirely.
 
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If you take a moment to reflect on what exactly Gauss' Law says, and in particular what Q is defined to be, then you should be able to make a good attempt at solution, if not solve the problem entirely.

Can I get phi by multiplying the volume of the cylinder by ρ then dividing by e0 to get pi(r^2)(h)(ρ)/e0?

Then do I plug that into the other formula? If so how? I don’t know what the double integral is and I’m unsure what to do with the da. Is that a dot product or is the da just letting you know what to integrate with respect to?
 
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The double integral represents a surface integral, that is, over the Gaussian Surface. As such it's an integration over an area, hence the dA represents a differential "patch" of that surface area.

Take a look at the following PDF to review: http://bolvan.ph.utexas.edu/~vadim/classes/15s/GaussLaw.pdf
In one section it considers a hollow cylinder.

You need to choose suitable Gaussian surfaces (presumably taking advantage of the symmetry inherent in the scenario) that will allow you to evaluate the integral easily (essentially by inspection).
 

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