Electric Field of a charged sphere with cylindrical gaussian surface

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The problem involves determining the electric field at a point just outside a conducting solid sphere using Gauss's Law and two different Gaussian surfaces: a spherical surface and a cylindrical surface. The sphere has a specified radius and charge.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the challenges of using a cylindrical Gaussian surface due to the non-constant electric field and the orientation of the area vector. There is an attempt to derive the electric field assuming it is constant, leading to a specific expression. Others suggest reconsidering the choice of the cylindrical surface in favor of simpler approaches, emphasizing the proximity to the sphere's surface.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the choice of Gaussian surfaces, and there is a recognition of the uniform charge distribution on the sphere's surface. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take.

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Participants note the proximity of the point of interest to the sphere's surface, which may affect the assumptions made about the electric field's behavior. There is also mention of the constraints imposed by the problem statement regarding the use of Gaussian surfaces.

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So the problem statement is:

A conducting solid sphere (R = 0.167 m, q = 6.63·10–6 C) is shown in the figure. Using Gauss’s Law and two different Gaussian surfaces, determine the electric field (magnitude and direction) at point A, which is 0.00000100 m outside the conducting sphere. (Hint: One Gaussian surface is a sphere, and the other is a small right cylinder.)

Now with the spherical gaussian surface I've got no doubt..

The problem with the cylindrical surface is that the electric field it's not constant ,is it?
in some parts the "area vector" is parallel to the vector of electric field and in some part there's an angle.

So I'm not sure if i have to find a function of the electric field with respect to the radius of the sphere or how to get ride of this problem.

What I've first tried was to "assume the electric field" was constant so integrating dA what I've got:
since the height of cylinder is h=2r (of the sphere).
and there's flux all over the cyinder: E(2pi*h+2pi*r^2)=Q/ε...
E(4pi*r+2pi*r^2)=Q/ε... and so E=Q/(4pi*r+2pi*r^2)ε... but I'm not sure if a i could assume that...
 
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Reconsider your choice of small cylinder. Guiding principle: don't look for more difficult things to solve but try to find something even easier. Your clues:
1. the kind of answer to the first part of the exercise,
2. conducting sphere,
3. 0.00000100 m is very, very close to the surface
 
i could reconsider however it's something I'm being asked for. :(.

yep i know the answer must be E=Q/(4pi*r^2)ε.

and i know also the charge on the sphere it's all over the "surface area" and that the distance from the center to the point would be R+0.00000100 m.

Once i got the Electric field ussing a cylindrical gaussian surface it's just substitution. the problem is i need but I'm not sure how to reach the same result mathematically using that surface :/
 
1. the kind of answer to the first part of the exercise,
2. conducting sphere,
3. 0.00000100 m is very, very close to the surface
2. so all the charge is at the surface, and uniformly distributed.
3. so close to the surface that field lines over there are parallel
So a really puny cylinder standing upright on an almost flat surface would be a nice idea. floor just under the surface, top 0.00000100 m or thereabouts above...
 

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