Why is the Electric Field of a Polarized Atom Different in Textbooks?

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the electric field of a polarized atom, specifically addressing discrepancies between textbook equations and practical applications. The participants reference Coulomb's law, stating that the electric field can be calculated as ##E=\frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_o}\frac{-q}{r^2}## for a uniformly charged sphere. They emphasize that the electric field inside the sphere should not be overly complicated and can be simplified by treating the electron cloud as a point charge. The conversation highlights the confusion surrounding the textbook's approach to the electric field of polarized atoms.

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Homework Statement
A primitive model for an atom consists of point molecules ##(+q)## surrounded by a uniformly charged spherical cloud ##(-q)## of radius ##a## (Fig.1). Calculate the atmoic polarizability of such an atom.
Relevant Equations
##E_{dip}(r,\theta) = \frac {p}{4 \pi \epsilon_o r^{3}}(2cos(\theta)\hat {\mathbf r} + sin(\theta) \hat {\mathbf \theta}) ##
The question is like this:
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The solution is like this:
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However, according to the equation for ##E_{dip}## , what I think is that it should be: $$E=\frac {1}{4 \pi \epsilon_o} \frac {qd}{d^3} \hat {\mathbf z} $$, where I take the centre of the sphere in figure 2 as the centre of the coordinate, and positive z-axis towards right.

Actually it doesn't have to be that complicated. The electric field experienced by the positive charge on the left in figure 2 can be simply calculated by the Coulomb's law ##E=\frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_o}\frac{-q}{r^2}##. Anyway, I don't know why the textbook gives something different.
 
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Tony Hau said:
The electric field experienced by the positive charge on the left in figure 2 can be simply calculated by the Coulomb's law ##E=\frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_o}\frac{-q}{r^2}##.

Really? It is a uniformly charged sphere and we are calculating the electric field inside the sphere!
 
Abhishek11235 said:
Really? It is a uniformly charged sphere and we are calculating the electric field inside the sphere!
I suppose we can treat the electron cloud as a point charge, just like what we do for centre of mass? If that's not the case, why would the author draw two points inside the sphere?
 

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