Electric Field of Concentric Spheres and Opposite Charges

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The discussion revolves around the electric field generated by two concentric spheres with differing charge densities. The inner sphere has a positive charge density, while the region between the spheres has a negative charge density. Participants are exploring the implications of Gauss' Law in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss' Law to find the electric field in the region between the spheres. There are attempts to express the charge densities and the enclosed charge using Gaussian surfaces. Questions arise regarding the effects of the charge distributions on the electric field and the interpretation of the problem's setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on applying Gauss' Law, suggesting that the electric field can be derived from the net charge inside the Gaussian surface. There is acknowledgment of differing interpretations of the problem's setup, particularly regarding the description of the spheres and charge distributions.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the formulation of the problem, with participants questioning the description of the spheres and the nature of the insulating layer. This may affect the understanding of how to apply Gauss' Law correctly.

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Homework Statement


The figure to the right shows two concentric spheres made from insulators. One has radius and the other has radius R1, and the other has radius R2. The inner sphere has a positive charge density, +ρ, while the insulator region between the inner and outer spheres has a negative charge density, −ρ.

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Homework Equations


Gauss' Law

The Attempt at a Solution


a. I wrote expressions that represented each portion's charge densities, and set them equal to each other because the magnitudes of the charge densities are the same; I got 2.

b. I used a Gaussian sphere with radius r and enclosed a portion of the smaller sphere; solved

c. I used a Gaussian sphere with radius R2>r>R1. I expressed the charge of the small sphere as (4/3)π(R1)ρ. The other portion would be a sphere with radius r with a spherical cavity with radius R1 and charge density -ρ. I expressed its charge as (4/3)π(r^3-R1^3)(-ρ). I added these two together to get the enclosed charge, but I'm not sure how to express the flux in terms of E and dA. I know the negatively charged portion would have field lines entering the surface, and thus leading to a negative dot product, but would the positively charged sphere have an effect as well? Not sure what to do from here.

Any help would be appreciated
 
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You seem to be almost there. Having found the net charge inside the sphere radius r, R1<r<R2, isn't writing down the field at r immediate?
 
Would it be the same as the electric field of a point charge?
 
The formulation of this problem is terrible.

There is one sphere, the one with R = R1, then there is a spherical shell from r = R1 to R = R2. There are not two shells, nor an "insulating layer" between them.

Anyway, you're well on your way. I also don't see why it isn't immedialtely apparent to you what the E field has to be for R1 < r < R2. Just use Gauss's law! ε∫∫E⋅dA = Qfree inside the surface! It doesn't matter that some of the charge inside is + and some of it -, as long as all charge is distributed symmetrically with respect to the spherical coordinates φ and θ, which they are.
 
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idkwhatimdoing said:
Would it be the same as the electric field of a point charge?
Yes, that's the neat thing about charges with a spherically symmetric distribution.
 

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