Electric field on the equatorial line of a dipole

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The electric field on the equatorial line of a dipole is non-zero, despite the potential being zero at any point along that line. The relationship between electric field and potential is given by the equation ##E=-\frac{dV}{dr}##, but this only considers the radial component. The complete expression for the electric field in spherical coordinates is ##\overrightarrow{E}=-\overrightarrow{\nabla}V##, which accounts for all components. The dipole potential is accurately described by the formula $$V=\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0}\frac{p~\cos\!\theta}{r^2}$$, highlighting the importance of vector calculus in understanding electric fields.

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##\vec{E}## on the line that perpendicularly bisects the segment that joins two equal and opposite charges is non-zero, as it should be. But the potential of any point along that line is zero. But we know know that ##E=-\frac{dV}{dr} ##, where V is approximately ##\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon} \frac{pcos\theta}{r}## (if the charges are close together) where p is the magnitude of the dipole moment . If I differentiate that with respect to r and set ##\theta=\frac{\pi}{2}##, I still get E=0. What gives?
 
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DrBanana said:
What gives?
Nothing gives. The electric field is a three dimensional vector. You only calculated its radial component in the equatorial plane.
 
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##E=-\frac{dV}{dr} ##
That's wrong. It should be:$$\overrightarrow{E}=-\overrightarrow{\nabla}V=-\hat{r}\frac{\partial V}{\partial r}-\hat{\theta}\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial V}{\partial\theta}-\hat{\phi}\frac{1}{r\sin\theta}\frac{\partial V}{\partial\phi}$$
 
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That's wrong. It should be:$$\overrightarrow{E}=-\overrightarrow{\nabla}V=-\hat{r}\frac{\partial V}{\partial r}-\hat{\theta}\frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial V}{\partial\theta}-\hat{\phi}\frac{1}{r\sin\theta}\frac{\partial V}{\partial\phi}$$
Ok I think I understand what happened. My physics book doesn't touch on vector calculus and only mentions ##E=-\frac{dV}{dr}##, however most of the forces in the book only have radial components anyway so it didn't matter. But that broke down here.
 
The dipole potential in spherical coordinates is $$V=\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0}\frac{p~\cos\!\theta}{r^2}.$$Note the correct power of ##r## in the denominator. Also note that with ##z=r\cos\!\theta##, you have $$V=\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0}\frac{p~z}{r^3}.$$This last expression can be considered to be the dipole potential in cylindrical coordinates. In the equatorial plane (##z=0##) the potential vanishes but not its derivative with respect to ##z## which you can easily calculate.
 

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