How Does an Equilateral Triangle Affect Electric Fields on Its Axis?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field generated by three positive charges located at the corners of an equilateral triangle, specifically on the axis perpendicular to the triangle's plane. The participants analyze the symmetry planes relevant to the electric field at various points along the axis and conclude that the electric field at the center O is zero due to symmetry. They also explore why the electric field reaches a maximum at a specific height above O, emphasizing the importance of understanding the geometric configuration of the triangle.

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Hi,

I'm trying to solve this exercize :

I/3 charges Q, positives, are at the corner of an equilateral triangle of centre O, in (x,O,y) . We want to compute the electric field created by the 3 charges on the axis z, passing by O and perpendicular at (x,O,y), thus computing the electric field E(M) in each M point of (Oz), located at an height z above O. We have OA=OB=OC.

500992triangle.png


II/ 1) Describe the symmetry plane passing by each point M, located on the axis z. Tell the sense of direction of E(M) in each point of z.

As the point M is on axis z above A, I would say (Oz) is the only symmetry plane and the electric field is from A to the low triangle.2) By a similar way, deduce the value of the electric field at the centre O

As the three charges are positives the vectorial sum of the 3 electric fields at point O would give an electric field whose value is O, but how could we deduce it by symmetry ?

3) Why would we have the electric field norm on the axis z created by the three charges reached a maximum at a unique height above O ?

I do not see how to answer this one.

Thank you very much
 
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Hello Various (!?) , welcome to PF :smile: !

As the point M is on axis z above A, I would say (Oz) is the only symmetry plane and the electric field is from A to the low triangle.

Oz is a line, not a plane !

By a similar way, deduce the value of the electric field at the centre O
If you have brought 1) to a good conclusion, this one will be easier. There is one more symmetry plane for O

I do not see how to answer this one (3)
Again, this will be easier once we have 1) and 2).
 
thanks for your answer,

indeed the only symmetry plane would be (ux,uz) but how could we deduve the sense according to this plane ?
 
Well, if, with (ux,uz) you mean the x-z plane, I don't agree !
Applying this 'symmetry' would flip the picture upside down and then it isn't the same as the original !
 
I mean the plane which splits in two the triangle from bottom to top vertically but I do not know how to write it, until now I was doing electric field in 3D with cylindric or spheric so it was also the same planes, here we have a triangle so I would say if we take cylindric coordinate (r; theta, z) the plane (r,z) splits vertically the triangle and it is the same
 
various45 said:
Hi,

I'm trying to solve this exercize :

I/3 charges Q, positives, are at the corner of an equilateral triangle of centre O, in (x,O,y) . We want to compute the electric field created by the 3 charges on the axis z, passing by O and perpendicular at (x,O,y), thus computing the electric field E(M) in each M point of (Oz), located at an height z above O. We have OA=OB=OC.

500992triangle.png


II/ 1) Describe the symmetry plane passing by each point M, located on the axis z. Tell the sense of direction of E(M) in each point of z.

As the point M is on axis z above A, I would say (Oz) is the only symmetry plane and the electric field is from A to the low triangle.2) By a similar way, deduce the value of the electric field at the centre O

As the three charges are positives the vectorial sum of the 3 electric fields at point O would give an electric field whose value is O, but how could we deduce it by symmetry ?

3) Why would we have the electric field norm on the axis z created by the three charges reached a maximum at a unique height above O ?

I do not see how to answer this one.

Thank you very much
Are you certain that you have a equilateral triangle?

Maybe I'm having a brain cramp, but it doesn't seem to have three sides of equal length.
 

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