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The discussion revolves around finding the ratio of the magnitudes of the electrical and gravitational forces between a proton and an electron separated by a distance d. The subject area includes concepts from electrostatics and gravitation.

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  • Participants discuss the equations for electrical and gravitational forces, questioning how to properly set up the ratio. There is uncertainty about the necessary equations and values to use, particularly regarding gravitational force.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing equations and others seeking clarification on how to apply them. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the setup of the ratio, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Some participants express doubt about the familiarity with the concepts, while others reference external resources for gravitational force equations. The discussion reflects varying levels of confidence and understanding among participants.

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Find the ratio of the magnitudes of the electrical and the gravitational forces acting between a proton and an electron separated by an arbitrary distance d.


F= k(q)(q')/r^2 and
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The q's are in an absolute value sign. How do I find the ratio? Is it as simply as dividing it out?
 
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thst1003 said:
The q's are in an absolute value sign. I believe there is an additional equation similar to this one that deals with gravity that I need to use as well but I can't find it.

Although I have a lot of trouble believing that you have not encountered this already, I will just take your post at face value. Here is the equation you seek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation
 
I changed the question. I have encountered it.
 
that's a trivial problem asked on electrostatics. Yep, you divide it for a ratio.
 
What exactly do you divide? Is it Electrical force/Gravitational force using 1.6e-19 C for the electron and the electron? So it would be k(q)(q) / G(m1)(m2) ?
 
thst1003 said:
What exactly do you divide? Is it Electrical force/Gravitational force using 1.6e-19 C for the electron and the electron? So it would be k(q)(q) / G(m1)(m2) ?

In short: yes. You divide exactly what you were ASKED to divide (emphasis mine below):

thst1003 said:
Find the ratio of the magnitudes of the electrical and the gravitational forces acting between a proton and an electron separated by an arbitrary distance d.
 

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