Electric Point Forces in a Circle

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The problem involves twelve identical point charges arranged around a circle of radius 'R', with one charge moved to the center. Participants are tasked with determining the net electric force on the central charge, both in magnitude and direction, while grappling with the implications of the arrangement and the principle of superposition.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the principle of superposition to analyze the forces from the surrounding charges. There is uncertainty about how to approach the calculations, particularly regarding the force at the center and the implications of having one charge removed.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints about calculating the forces as if all twelve charges were present, while others express confusion about the force at the center and how to proceed with the calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexity of calculating forces in a non-standard arrangement and are questioning the assumptions about the forces acting on the central charge versus those from the surrounding charges.

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Homework Statement


Twelve identical point charges are equally spaced around the circumference of a circle of radius 'R'. The circle is centered at the origin. One of the twelve charges, which happens to be on the positive axis, is now moved to the center of the circle.

Part A
Find the magnitude of the net electric force exerted on this charge.
Express your answer in terms of some or all of the variables q, R, and appropriate constants.

Part B
Find the direction of the net electric force exerted on this charge.
Express your answer as an integer.

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The Attempt at a Solution


PART A:
- i drew the diagram of a circle with radius R and one of the 12 points at the center.
- i am fairly certain i need to use the principle of superposition but with 11 other points I am not sure where to start

PART B:
- didnt attempt yet because need part A first.

Any help at all would be appreciated I am so confused!
 
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hi toosha88! :smile:

hmm :rolleyes: … with 11 equations to deal with, i'd be looking for a short-cut :biggrin:

hint: try calculating the force as if there were still 12 charges round the circle …

then calculate the difference with only 11 :wink:
 
Thanks for the advice! But, if i were to calculate the force in the middle of the circle wouldn't that just equal zero?
Would i then just calculate the force on the ONE charge inside the circle?
Im still confused!:confused:
 
hi toosha88! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
toosha88 said:
Thanks for the advice! But, if i were to calculate the force in the middle of the circle wouldn't that just equal zero?

Yup! :biggrin:
Would i then just calculate the force on the ONE charge inside the circle?

(i assume you mean from the one charge outside the circle?)

yes, but you'd need to subtract it, wouldn't you? :wink:
 

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