Electric potential at the edge of a thin charged circular plate

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The discussion centers on calculating the electric potential at the edge of a thin charged circular plate using calculus. The user derived the charge element dq and the potential dV, leading to the expression V = (-σR/πε). The confusion arose from integrating the limits from 0 to π/2, resulting in a negative sign for the potential. The correct approach involves integrating from π/2 to 0, which aligns with the positive nature of the radius dr during integration.

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Homework Statement
To find the electric potential at the edge of a thin circular plate of radius R carrying uniformly distributed charge of surface density σ
Relevant Equations
dV = (1/4πε) dq/r
l = rθ
My question might sound stupid to you but please clear my confusions.

I'm taking an circular arc like element on the plate. That arc has a radius of 'r' (AB) and the radius is inclined at an angle 'θ' with OA (∠OAB).
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The area between arc of radius r and r+dr is dA.
dA = 2θr.dr
The charge on this area will be dq
dq = σ dA = 2σθr.dr

From ΔAOB, the relation between r and R is:
r = 2Rcosθ
taking derivative on both sides gives:
dr = -2Rsinθ

Potential due to this area at edge A is dV
dV = (1/4πεr) dq = (1/4πε) (-4σRθsinθ.dθ)

So, V comes out to be ∫ dV = (-σR/πε) ∫ θsinθ.dθ
taking limits from 0 to π/2, the integral gives 1

V = (-σR/πε)

I got the right magnitude but wrong sign. Some resources on internet say I should integrate from π/2 to 0.
What is the problem in integrating from 0 to π/2? Why am I getting a negative sign? And why should I integrate from π/2 to 0?
 
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Aryamaan Thakur said:
why should I integrate from π/2 to 0?
Because you started with dr, which is only going to be positive if your integration range is from 0 to 2R (not the other way around).
r=0 corresponds to θ=π/2.
 
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It was just this...😂 I solved the whole problem and put the wrong limits😂😂😂
Thanks a lot:smile: You cleared my confusion.
 

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