Electric Potential Concept Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of electric potential, specifically addressing why the electric potential at the midpoint between two oppositely charged points is considered to be zero. Participants explore the implications of this for potential energy and the work done when moving a charge in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the electric potential is zero at the midpoint between two oppositely charged points and whether this implies no potential energy exists there.
  • Another participant explains that electric potentials are relative and that setting the potential to zero at the midpoint is a matter of convention.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the implications of moving a charge from infinity to the midpoint, asking if no net work would be done in this scenario.
  • It is noted that setting the potential at infinity to zero is consistent with setting it to zero at the midpoint, based on symmetry considerations.
  • One participant suggests that the potential at the midpoint should match the value at infinity.
  • Another participant agrees, emphasizing that any deviation from the potential at infinity would require a sign, which could be reversed by changing the charge signs, reinforcing the symmetry argument.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the convention of setting potentials and the implications of symmetry, but there is some confusion and differing interpretations regarding the physical significance of these conventions and their implications for potential energy and work done.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the nuances of how potential energy is defined in this context or the implications of moving charges in relation to these conventions.

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Why is the electric potential in the middle of two oppositely charged points 0? Does this also mean that there's no potential energy at this point?
 
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Remember that all potentials work by looking at how they vary from place to place-- absolute values at a given place are never of any physical importance. So when we take zero at the center, it's just a convenient convention.
 
Alright... That's somewhat counter-intuitive for me.

So does that mean that if I move a charge from infinity to the middle of the two opposite charges, no net work would be done?
 
That is also true-- it means that if we set the potential at infinity to be zero, that's the same convention as setting it to be zero at the center. You can tell that has to be true from the symmetry--if the charges are equal and opposite, what is going to be the sign of the potential at the center, relative to infinity? Which sign could possibly be singled out?
 
Shouldn't it have the exact same value as the potential at infinity?
 
Yes, by symmetry-- if it were to deviate from the value at infinity, the deviation would need a sign, and we should be able to reverse that sign by reversing the sign of the charges, but such a reversal is just a left/right reflection.
 

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