Electric Potential due to two charges

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The problem involves determining the points along a horizontal line where the electric potential is zero due to two point charges: a positive charge of +3.0 μC and a negative charge of -4.0 μC, positioned at specified coordinates. The context is rooted in electrostatics and electric potential calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the equation for electric potential and explore the implications of their calculations. There are attempts to verify the correctness of the derived point where the potential is zero and questions about whether other solutions exist, particularly to the left of the positive charge.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants affirming the correctness of the initial calculations while others suggest that additional solutions may be possible. There is a focus on ensuring the proper definition of distances in the equations used.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering absolute values for distances in the equations, as well as the potential for additional solutions outside the initially calculated point.

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Homework Statement


Two point charges are placed on a horizontal line, the first is +3.0-μC located at x = 0.0-m, y = 0.0-m and the second is -4.0-μC located at x = 2.0-m, y = 0.0-m. At what points on the horizontal line y = 0.0 will the electric potential be zero?

Homework Equations


V(r)=kq/r

The Attempt at a Solution


V(total)=kq1/r1+kq2/r2=0

k(q1/r1+q2/r2)=0

k(3e-6/x-4e-6/(2-x)=0

x=6/7

So there should be no electric potential at x=6/7metres. Is that the only point?
 
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Mnemonic said:

Homework Statement


Two point charges are placed on a horizontal line, the first is +3.0-μC located at x = 0.0-m, y = 0.0-m and the second is -4.0-μC located at x = 2.0-m, y = 0.0-m. At what points on the horizontal line y = 0.0 will the electric potential be zero?

Homework Equations


V(r)=kq/r

The Attempt at a Solution


V(total)=kq1/r1+kq2/r2=0

k(q1/r1+q2/r2)=0

k(3e-6/x-4e-6/(2-x)=0

x=6/7

So there should be no electric potential at x=6/7metres. Is that the only point?

Your work looks correct . Yes, there is only one point at which potential is zero.
 
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Mnemonic said:
k(q1/r1+q2/r2)=0
k(3e-6/x-4e-6/(2-x)=0
Not quite correct --- you'll want to look at how you've defined "r2."
 
Would I get another valid answer if I first used:

k(3e-6/x-4e-6/(2-x)=0

then used:

k(3e-6/(2-x)-4e-6/x=0
?
 
Mnemonic said:
Would I get another valid answer if I first used:

k(3e-6/x-4e-6/(2-x)=0

then used:

k(3e-6/(2-x)-4e-6/x=0
?

No . The answer would remain same i.e point of zero potential will be at a distance (6/7)m from +3.0-μC .

In the latter case ,you are taking 'x' to be the distance of point of zero potential from -4.0-μC .Here you will get x=(8/7)m .Again this point will be at a distance (2-x) i.e (6/7)m from +3.0-μC .

The answer remains same .
 
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You have two charges, opposite in sign, separated by a distance of two meters; at all points on the two meter line segment between those two opposite sign charges there is a non-zero force on any non-zero test charge resulting from the simultaneous attraction and repulsion of the test charge by the two given charges.
 
@Mnemonic ,

There is something more you need to do . There might be another solution to this problem.

Consider a point to the left of +3.0-μC at a distance 'x' . Apply the appropriate condition , as you did in the OP .What do you get ?
 
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Mnemonic said:

Homework Equations


V(r)=kq/r

The Attempt at a Solution


V(total)=kq1/r1+kq2/r2=0

k(q1/r1+q2/r2)=0

k(3e-6/x-4e-6/(2-x)=0

Remember, r is the distance from the charge, a positive quantity. x is the position along the x axis. If x is positive, 2-x can be both positive and negative, You need to take the absolute value. x can be also negative. So you have to take the absolute values r1=|x|, r2=|2-x|.
 

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