Electric potential problem ?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric potential in an electroscope when an earthed rod is brought near it. The subject area is electrostatics, specifically focusing on charge interactions and induction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the concept of charge induction, questioning how the positive charge of the electroscope interacts with the earthed rod. There is a discussion about the presence of electrons in the electroscope despite it being positively charged.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering intuitive explanations and clarifying misconceptions about charge distribution in the electroscope. Some guidance is provided regarding the nature of charge imbalance and the behavior of conduction electrons.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the presence of electrons in a positively charged body and the effects of bringing an earthed conductor close to it. There is an acknowledgment of the complexities involved in charge interactions and the energy required to remove electrons from atoms.

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I want to know that why electric potential of the electroscope which is charge positive decrease when a rod which is earthed is brought near to the electroscope .
 
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Well an intuitive explanation for this is that the positive charge on the electroscope will induce a negative charge on the rod, that is it draws some electrons onto the tip of the rod closest to the electroscope. The presence of this negative charge on the rod will repel electrons from the disc at the top of the electroscope downwards towards the leaves of the electroscope thereby causing them to collapse a bit.
 
andrevdh said:
Well an intuitive explanation for this is that the positive charge on the electroscope will induce a negative charge on the rod, that is it draws some electrons onto the tip of the rod closest to the electroscope. The presence of this negative charge on the rod will repel electrons from the disc at the top of the electroscope downwards towards the leaves of the electroscope thereby causing them to collapse a bit.
But I mentioned that the electroscope is charged positive so there should be no electron on the electroscope right ?
 
Only a slight charge imbalance (different amounts of positive and negative) is created in a body when it is charged up, in this case only a fraction of the electrons on the surface of the conducting part of the electroscope is removed. This involves some of the "outer" conduction electrons of the atoms. There will still be plenty of electrons left in the material. It takes quite a lot of energy to strip the inner electrons off the atoms. So the conduction electrons will be removed gradualy as it is charged up. Long before the inner ones are ripped out of the atoms all sorts of phenomena will start to manifest like sparks, discharges in the air and glowing light around the charged object.
 

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