Electrical Circuits: Recharging a Battery

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the process of recharging a battery, specifically focusing on the conversion of electrical energy into chemical energy. The problem involves understanding the role of electromotive force (emf), internal resistance, and power equations in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between power, current, and resistance in the context of recharging a battery. There are attempts to clarify the equations provided and how they apply when the current direction is reversed. Questions arise regarding the implications of internal resistance and whether it affects the power calculations during recharging.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the validity of the equations presented and exploring different interpretations of the power supplied to the battery. Some guidance has been offered regarding the understanding of power as the rate of energy transfer, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or equation.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the relevance of the internal resistance of the battery being recharged and whether the second battery can be considered ideal. Participants are navigating the implications of these assumptions in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



Suppose that a battery of emf E and internal resistance r is being recharged: another emf sends a current I through the battery. Why rate is electrical energy being converted into chemical energy?


Homework Equations



P=EI-I^2*r
V=E-Ir

I know that since it is being recharged, the current flows in the reverse direction (positive terminal --> negative terminal), however, I'm not sure how to go about doing this.


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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You can look at power as the rate at which energy is transferred so that is exactly what the question is asking for. You know the voltage the current and the resistance, and you have an equation..
 
Since it is going in opposite direction, would it be:
P=I^2r-EI ?
 
Regardless of which way a current is going it's still going to dissipate energy into heat energy correct? However we're still increasing the energy of the actual battery so how can it be negative? In your equation for have for just the battery P = -EI, you're not dissipating energy from doing this you're gaining some energy!
 
Okay, thanks. So really, the question is only asking for the equation that is already giving me in my textbook?

It doesn't seem right for the answer to be P=EI-I^2*r
 
I don't get how that can be the answer when the second part of the question asks:

What is the power supplied by the recharging circuit to the battery?
 
Wait, I don't think the internal resistance of the first battery matters when it is being recharged, does it?

So we have a resistor then the positive terminal and then the negative terminal. This battery is then attached to another emf (it doesn't state that this battery has an internal resistance, so we assume its an ideal battery?). So wouldn't the answer simply be:

P = EI because the internal resistance on the one battery has no effect?
 

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