Electrical Generator and rotating coil

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an electric generator with a rectangular coil rotating in a magnetic field, aiming to determine the required rotational speed to induce a specific alternating emf. The context is rooted in electromagnetism and the principles of electromagnetic induction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the formula for induced emf and the need to express the angle as a function of time. There are attempts to derive the angular speed from the emf equation, with questions about the units of angular speed and how to convert them to revolutions per second.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring the relationship between angular speed and induced emf. Some guidance has been provided regarding the expression for angular speed and the conversion of units, but there is no explicit consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the requirement to express the angular speed in revolutions per second rather than radians per second, which has led to further clarification and exploration of unit conversion.

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Homework Statement



An electric generator consists of a rectangular coil of wire rotating about its longitudinal axis which is perpendicular to a magnetic field of B = 1.70 × 10-2 T. The coil measures 13.00 cm by 19.00 cm and 200.00 turns of wire. The ends of the wire are connected to an external circuit. At what speed must you rotate this coil in order to induce an alternating emf of amplitude 11.00 V between the ends of the wire? Give you answer in rev/s. Do not enter the units.


Homework Equations



Eind=-N d(BAcos(theta))/ dt

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that because this has a turning coil in a magnetic field, the above equation can become Eo=-NBA

and thus Eo=0.08398 V

I just don't know where to go form here or how you are supposed to find the speed?
 
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You'll need to express θ as a function of time so that you can carry out the time derivative in your expression.
 
TSny said:
You'll need to express θ as a function of time so that you can carry out the time derivative in your expression.

Eind=-NBA*dcos(theta)/dt

is that what you meant?
 
You can assume that the generator is rotating at constant angular speed ω. So, θ = ωt.
Using that, can you evaluate d(cosθ)/dt?
 
TSny said:
You can assume that the generator is rotating at constant angular speed ω. So, θ = ωt.
Using that, can you evaluate d(cosθ)/dt?

d(cos(wt))/dt

θ=2(pi)ft = wt

emf=NBAw

is that right?
 
SereneKi said:
emf=NBAw

is that right?

Looks good to me.
 
TSny said:
Looks good to me.

so w= 11/ 200 * 1.7*10^-2 * .13 * .19

w=130.99

What now, Lon capa says that isn't the answer
 
SereneKi said:
so w= 11/ 200 * 1.7*10^-2 * .13 * .19

w=130.99

What now, Lon capa says that isn't the answer

What are the units of w in emf= NBAw?

Note that you are asked to find the rotation rate in rev/s.
 
TSny said:
What are the units of w in emf= NBAw?

Note that you are asked to find the rotation rate in rev/s.

They are rad/s! So 130.99 / 2pi = 20.85 which is right! thank you so much!
 

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