Electromagnetism - Infinite plane of charge & Tension

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a ping-pong ball hanging from an infinite plane of charge, analyzed through free body diagrams and force equations. The subject area is electromagnetism, particularly focusing on forces acting on charged objects in static equilibrium.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of free body diagrams and the correctness of force equations. There are attempts to clarify the relationships between tension, gravitational force, and electric force. Questions arise regarding the reasoning behind the setup of equations and the components involved in static equilibrium.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the correctness of the diagrams and equations, while others have raised questions about the reasoning behind the setups. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector components and static equilibrium conditions, with some expressing uncertainty about the best method to approach the problem. There are indications of potential sign errors in the equations being discussed.

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TL;DR Summary: Ping-pong ball hanging static from infinite plane of charge and a string

Really struggling with this question. I'm not sure if I have set up the free body diagram correctly and don't know how to set up the x and y components

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You setup looks fine. Now solve the system of equations.

There are perhaps ways of setting up the problem that make the solution easier, but we can discuss those once you have solved it.
 
I agree with @Orodruin that your diagrams are correct. Nicely drawn!

However, your two force equations are not correct. Check these.
 
TSny said:
I agree with @Orodruin that your diagrams are correct. Nicely drawn!

However, your two force equations are not correct. Check these.
Would this be correct:
Fx: T cos(10) = Fe cos(60)
Fy: T sin(10) = Fg + Fe sin(60)
 
thejuanestevez said:
Would this be correct:
Fx: T cos(10) = Fe cos(60)
Fy: T sin(10) = Fg + Fe sin(60)
The first equation looks good. The second equation has a sign error.
 
TSny said:
The first equation looks good. The second equation has a sign error.
Is it T sin(10) = Fe sin(60) - Fg ?
 
thejuanestevez said:
Is it T sin(10) = Fe sin(60) - Fg ?
No. What is your reasoning behind setting up the two equations?
 
TSny said:
No. What is your reasoning behind setting up the two equations?
I need to find Fe so that I can use it to find the charge of the of the ping pong ball. Fe is the force pushing the ball away, Fg and T are holding it static. So that should mean that T + Fg = Fe?
 
thejuanestevez said:
I need to find Fe so that I can use it to find the charge of the of the ping pong ball. Fe is the force pushing the ball away, Fg and T are holding it static. So that should mean that T + Fg = Fe?
You are working with vectors. For static equilibrium, the net force must equal zero. So, the vector sum of the forces must equal zero. This means that the x-components of all the forces must add to zero and the y-components of the forces must add to zero:

##T_x + Fe_x + Fg_x= 0##
##T_y + Fe_y + Fg_y = 0##

You just need to fill in the correct expressions for each of the terms being careful with signs.
 
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Let me just add that splitting into components is not the way I would handle this particular problem. Even if I chose that route I would have chosen different directions to study the components in.
 

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