Electromagnetism - Infinite plane of charge & Tension

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a ping-pong ball suspended from an infinite plane of charge using a string. Participants analyze the setup of free body diagrams and the equations of motion, emphasizing the importance of correctly identifying force components. While some equations presented are deemed correct, others contain sign errors that need correction for proper equilibrium analysis. The conversation highlights the necessity of ensuring that the vector sum of forces equals zero in both x and y components. Ultimately, the focus is on finding the electric force (Fe) to determine the charge of the ping-pong ball while considering alternative methods for solving the problem.
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TL;DR Summary: Ping-pong ball hanging static from infinite plane of charge and a string

Really struggling with this question. I'm not sure if I have set up the free body diagram correctly and don't know how to set up the x and y components

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You setup looks fine. Now solve the system of equations.

There are perhaps ways of setting up the problem that make the solution easier, but we can discuss those once you have solved it.
 
I agree with @Orodruin that your diagrams are correct. Nicely drawn!

However, your two force equations are not correct. Check these.
 
TSny said:
I agree with @Orodruin that your diagrams are correct. Nicely drawn!

However, your two force equations are not correct. Check these.
Would this be correct:
Fx: T cos(10) = Fe cos(60)
Fy: T sin(10) = Fg + Fe sin(60)
 
thejuanestevez said:
Would this be correct:
Fx: T cos(10) = Fe cos(60)
Fy: T sin(10) = Fg + Fe sin(60)
The first equation looks good. The second equation has a sign error.
 
TSny said:
The first equation looks good. The second equation has a sign error.
Is it T sin(10) = Fe sin(60) - Fg ?
 
thejuanestevez said:
Is it T sin(10) = Fe sin(60) - Fg ?
No. What is your reasoning behind setting up the two equations?
 
TSny said:
No. What is your reasoning behind setting up the two equations?
I need to find Fe so that I can use it to find the charge of the of the ping pong ball. Fe is the force pushing the ball away, Fg and T are holding it static. So that should mean that T + Fg = Fe?
 
thejuanestevez said:
I need to find Fe so that I can use it to find the charge of the of the ping pong ball. Fe is the force pushing the ball away, Fg and T are holding it static. So that should mean that T + Fg = Fe?
You are working with vectors. For static equilibrium, the net force must equal zero. So, the vector sum of the forces must equal zero. This means that the x-components of all the forces must add to zero and the y-components of the forces must add to zero:

##T_x + Fe_x + Fg_x= 0##
##T_y + Fe_y + Fg_y = 0##

You just need to fill in the correct expressions for each of the terms being careful with signs.
 
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Let me just add that splitting into components is not the way I would handle this particular problem. Even if I chose that route I would have chosen different directions to study the components in.
 
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