Electromagnets and contactor relays

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The discussion revolves around creating an electromagnet for a project, specifically for a contactor relay. The user initially inquired about the appropriate wire gauge and number of turns needed to limit current to 100mA from a 24V DC source. After calculating resistance and wire lengths, they determined the need for 500m of 31 AWG wire and 670m of 33 AWG wire, although a correction was made regarding the wire thickness and resistance. The conversation also addressed the necessity of using enamel insulated wire and confirmed that time would not be an issue for the electromagnet's operation. The user successfully completed their electromagnet and shared images of the final product.
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I am supposed to make an electromagnet for a project.
how will i know what gauge of wire to use and how many turns do i need so that my electromagnet will only get 100mA of current from a 24V dc source?
Thank you!
 
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Hi Raymond
welcome to PF :smile:

do you know Ohms Law ?

if I said Resistance in Ohms = volts / current

can you plug in the values and come up with a value of resistance

then you will need to do some searching on values of resistance per metre (foot) of different gauges of wire
and determine how much wire you need

lets see how you go with the first part for a start :smile:Dave
 
Thank you sir! Well I have solved it already. I got 2 different gauges of wire to be sure. I need to get less than 100mA of current so,
For the 31 awg wire, I need to have 500 m of wire.
For the 33 awg wire, I need to have 670 m of wire approximately.
My problem is now how many turns or how many times do i need to coil it around my steel core?
Actually I need this electromagnet to make a contactor relay. Is there any more things I need to consider in order to make the relay work for at least 10 minutes?
 
raymond621 said:
For the 31 awg wire, I need to have 500 m of wire.
For the 33 awg wire, I need to have 670 m of wire approximately.

That sounds the wrong way around

33awg is thinner than 31 awg so it's resistance would be higher and therefore a shorter length needed :smile:
just check your thoughts there

I hope it is enamel insulated wire ? ( sometimes called magnet wire)

raymond621 said:
My problem is now how many turns or how many times do i need to coil it around my steel core?

you need ALL of it wrapped around the core, except the fly leads off the end to go to the power supply

raymond621 said:
Actually I need this electromagnet to make a contactor relay. Is there any more things I need to consider in order to make the relay work for at least 10 minutes?

time isn't an issue with the small current you are drawing from the power supplyDave
 
Yup, a magnetic wire! Thank you very much for your help Mr. Dave!
 
you are welcome

post back in the thread at some stage a pic of your electromagnet
and keep us informed on how your experiment is going :smile:
 
Allright! Thanks again sir!
 
looking good, have fun with your continued experiments :smile:
 
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