Electron in a well: energies are quantized or not?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the energy states of an electron in a potential well, specifically contrasting finite and infinite wells. Participants explore the implications of well width on energy state density and the nature of energy distributions in these scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that an electron in a well with infinite walls has a discrete set of energies, but questions the energy state density when the well length is infinite.
  • Another participant states that a finite well has a finite number of allowed states and that the energy density is represented by a series of delta functions.
  • A different participant argues that in an infinite well, the series of energy states becomes a continuous energy density due to the "addensate" of energy levels.
  • Some participants express confusion over the term "addensate," with one clarifying it may refer to making something denser.
  • One participant points out that the discussion is about an infinitely wide well, not necessarily infinitely deep, and questions why energies are not uniformly distributed in this case.
  • Another participant notes that in a 3D infinitely deep well, energy density is an increasing function, suggesting that while energy states do not form a continuous set, they are densely packed and not uniformly distributed when the width is infinite.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of energy state density in infinite wells, with no consensus reached on whether the energy states can be considered continuous or discrete, and how they are distributed.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of energy state density in infinite wells and the implications of well width on energy distributions. The term "addensate" also introduces ambiguity in the discussion.

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hi, I'm new on this forum, and I don't know english very well (sorry). maybe you can clarify me about this doubt. an electron in a well with infinite walls has a discrete set of energies, right? but if the length of the well is infinite, what can I say about energy state density? is it uniform (as energy state density of a free electron: that's reasonable, as a well of infinite length should simulate this situation), or not? calculus seems to avvalorate this second hypothesis...
 
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A finite well will have a finite number of allowed states associated with it and the energy density will be a series of delta functions.
 
right, but in an infinite well such series becomes a continuous energy density because energy levels addensate: try to imagine...
 
addensate? :confused:
 
no_math_please said:
right, but in an infinite well such series becomes a continuous energy density because energy levels addensate: try to imagine...

The infinite well never has a continuous series of energy states, only discrete states..

I'm with jtbell, "addensate"?
 
I think he's referring to an infinitely wide well, not an infinitely deep one.
 
From the Latin roots, "addensate" should mean "to make more dense". Is your first language Italian, by any chance?
 
yes, addensate=to make more dense! sorry, I thought this word exist in English. I'm referring to an infinitely wide well, not necessarily infinitely deep one: this should represent the free space. the question is: why energies in this case aren't distributed uniformly? for example, in a 3D-infinitely deep well energy density is an increasing function (right, energy states doesn't form a continuous set, but a dense set not uniformly distributed when width is infinite)
 
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