Electron moving from point A to B. electron potential higher?

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The discussion revolves around an electron moving from point A to point B under the influence of electric fields. The original poster questions whether the electric potential is higher at point A or point B, given that the electron's speed increases as it moves to point B.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between electric potential, electric potential energy, and kinetic energy as the electron moves from A to B. There is a focus on how changes in potential energy relate to changes in kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the definitions of electric potential and potential energy, while others question the assumptions made about energy transfer as the electron gains speed. Multiple interpretations of the relationship between potential and kinetic energy are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of conservation of energy in understanding the changes in potential and kinetic energy. There is also a mention of the need for clarification on the definitions of electric potential and potential energy.

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Homework Statement



An electron , influenced only by electric fields and forces, moves from A to B. When it reaches B, its speed is higher than it was at A. Is the electric potential higher at A or at B?

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So as the electron gets closer to B, the potential rises. So as the potential rises, the electron gets closer, the EPE, it also rises. As the EPE increases the kinetic energy decreases for the electron and it begins to slow down, the energy is never lost, it is transferred. So the electric potential would be great at B?
 
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rcmango said:
So as the electron gets closer to B, the potential rises.
Correct.
So as the potential rises, the electron gets closer, the EPE, it also rises. As the EPE increases the kinetic energy decreases for the electron and it begins to slow down, the energy is never lost, it is transferred. So the electric potential would be great at B?
How could the kinetic energy decrease when the problem clearly states that the speed of the electron increases when it moves from A to B? Sounds to me that potential energy is traded for a gain in kinetic energy.
 
rcmango said:

Homework Statement



An electron , influenced only by electric fields and forces, moves from A to B. When it reaches B, its speed is higher than it was at A. Is the electric potential higher at A or at B?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



So as the electron gets closer to B, the potential rises. So as the potential rises, the electron gets closer, the EPE, it also rises. As the EPE increases the kinetic energy decreases for the electron and it begins to slow down, the energy is never lost, it is transferred. So the electric potential would be great at B?
rcmango said:
So as the electron gets closer to B, the potential rises.
Correct.
So as the potential rises, the electron gets closer, the EPE, it also rises. As the EPE increases the kinetic energy decreases for the electron and it begins to slow down, the energy is never lost, it is transferred. So the electric potential would be great at B?
How could the kinetic energy decrease when the problem clearly states that the speed of the electron increases when it moves from A to B? Sounds to me that potential energy is traded for a gain in kinetic energy.

What is the sign of the change in electric potential and what is the sign of the change in electric potential energy?
 
Okay, I realized that I missed something in the question where it said it was gaining speed.

So, as the electron is approaching B, its potential is rising, as the potential is rising so is the Electric potential energy, it is also rising. The electric Potential is higher at B, how can I prove this though? I'm not sure how?
 
Is the electric charge of an electron positive, or is it negative?

What's the definition of electric potential?
 
the electron charge is negative.

Electric potential: measure of work required by an electric field to move a charge. (Voltage)
 
rcmango said:
the electron charge is negative.

Electric potential: measure of work required by an electric field to move a charge. (Voltage)
What is your textbook's definition of Electric Potential ?
 
The textbook explanation is simply that electric potential is equal to electric potential energy per unit charge.
 
rcmango said:
Okay, I realized that I missed something in the question where it said it was gaining speed.

So, as the electron is approaching B, its potential is rising, as the potential is rising so is the Electric potential energy, it is also rising. The electric Potential is higher at B, how can I prove this though? I'm not sure how?
As the electron approaches B its speed is higher than it was at A ... so does the Kinetic Energy increase from A to B or does it decrease?

Using that answer & conservation of energy, is the electron's Potential Energy higher -- or is it lower -- at B than at A? In other words, is Δ(PE) positive or negative in going from A to B ?

If Electric Potential, V, = PE/Qelectron , then how is Δ(V) related to Δ(PE) ?
 

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