Electrostatic Force and Field between two charges

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field strength and force between two positive point charges of 10nC each, positioned 10cm apart. Initially, the electric field strength at point A was incorrectly calculated as zero due to a misunderstanding of vector components. After corrections, the electric field strength was recalculated to be 25,435.2 N/C, with the x-components canceling out and the y-components adding together. The force acting on a 100nC charge at point A was then determined to be 25.43 mN, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying vector addition in these calculations. The conversation highlights the need for a clear understanding of vector mathematics in electrostatics.
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Two positive point charges with a charge of 10nC each are 10cm apart. What is the electric field strength at point A? How is it directed? Which force acts on a charge of 100nC at point A?
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F = k * q1 * q2 / r^2
E = F/q
r^2 = (l1/2)^2 + (l2)^2 => r = 0,707m

Electric field strength :

E1 = E2 = 8.99 x 10^9 Nm^2/C^2 * 10*10^-9C / (0,707m)^2 = 179,854 N/C So i "pulled apart" the Electric field strength in x and y components.
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E1y = E1 * cos(45°)= 127,176 N/C
E2y = E2 * cos(45°)=127,176 N/C
E1x = E1 * sin(45°) = 127, 176 N/C
E2x = E2* sin(45°) = 127, 176 N/C

As the Field strength components have the same Amount, yet oppose direction they substract themselvs to Zero, E1y-E2y = 0 ; E1x-E2x = 0. So the Overall Field strength in Point A is Zero.

At the second part i suppose to calculate the Electric Force, if at Point A is a Charge q3= 100nC.
Fe1 = k * q1 * q3 / r^2 = 1,7985*10^-5 N
Fe2 = k * q1 * q3 / r^2 = 1,7985*10^-5 N.

The Overall force Fe^2 = Fe1^2 + Fe2 ^2 => Fe = 2,54 * 10^-5.

Is this the right way to calculate it? I am open for every Suggestion.

Kind Regards
 

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psy said:
As the Field strength components have the same Amount, yet oppose direction they substract themselvs to Zero, E1y-E2y = 0 ; E1x-E2x = 0. So the Overall Field strength in Point A is Zero.
I can see that E1x and E2x are opposite and add to zero. Why do the y components add to zero? There is a problem in how you are treating the components. The components of a vector are algebraic quantities. E1x and E2x do not have the same sign.
For the second part, the two forces on the point charge at the point A are vectors. They should be added as vectors. You added their magnitudes. Your diagram is showing the forces correctly, but you did ot follow it up with the correct method of vector addition.
 
Hello

So i have made the following correction:

r= 0,0707m

E1 = E2 = 17985,4 N/C

E1y = E1 * cos(-45°)= 12717,6 N/C
E2y = E2 * cos(45°)=12717,6 N/C
E1x = E1 * sin(-45°) = -12717,6 N/C
E2x = E2* sin(45°) = 12717,6 N/C

Ey = E1y+E2y = 25435.2 N/C
Ex = E1x+ E2x = -12717,6 N/C+12717,6 N/C = 0.

So the Electric field strength is E = Ey + Ex = 25435.2 N/C + 0 = 25435.2 N/C

In the second part, for calculating the force in case there is a 100nC Point Charge at the given spot :

F= q*E =100*10^-9C * 25435.2 N/C = 25,43* 10^-3 N.

Is this the correct way?

Kind Regards
 
You should really read up about how to add and subtract vectors from your textbook. For any vector V (bold font)
V ≠ Vx + Vy
The left hand side is a vector, with a direction. The components on the right hand side are not vectors. They are algebraic quantities. You must use either unit vectors, or specify both magnitude and direction to write a vector.
 
IEI = sqrt( Ey^2 + Ex^2) = 25435.2 N/C ?
 
And the direction. Same with the force.
 
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