Electrostatic force and # of elementary particles

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electrostatic force and the number of elementary charges between two charged balloons. The user provides specific parameters, including the masses of the balloons, their lengths, and the angle of separation. They initially express confusion about finding the electrostatic force but later clarify they need assistance with that calculation, not the number of particles. A suggested formula for the electrostatic force is provided, along with guidance on determining the distance between the charges using trigonometry. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately interpreting the problem and applying the correct equations.
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I need to find the electrostatic force & the number of elementary particles between two charged balloons held in the center of their strings (Think of an Isosceles Triangle).

Homework Statement


Mpurple(balloon) - .00354 kg
Mred - .00405 kg
Lpurple - .725 m
Lred - .68 m
θ = 16°
T = Tension

2. Homework Equations & The attempt at a solution

Fnet1 = Mpurple*g - Tcosθ = 0 T2 = (Mred*g)/cosθ
Tcosθ = Mpurple*g
T1 = (Mpurple*g)/cosθ

Fnetx = F-Tsinθ
Tsinθ = F
(M*g)/cosθ * sinθ = F
M*g*tanθ = (k*q²)/r²
M*g*tanθ = (k*q²)/(Lpurple*sinθ + Lred*sinθ)
(Lpurple*sinθ + Lred*sinθ)*( M*g*tanθ) = k*q²
q² = ((Lpurple*sinθ + Lred*sinθ)*( M*g*tanθ))/k
q = √(((Lpurple*sinθ + Lred*sinθ)*( M*g*tanθ))/k)
qPurple = √(((.725*sin16° + .68*sin16°)*( .00354*9.81*tan16°))/8.99x109)
qRed = √(((.725*sin16° + .68*sin16°)*( .00405*9.81*tan16°))/8.99x109)

Tpurple = (.00354 kg * 9.81m/s²)/cos16° = 0.036 N
Tred = (.00405 kg * 9.81m/s²)/cos16° = 0.041 N
qPurple = 6.54 x 10-7 C
qRed = 7.01 x 10-7 C





I don't know how I'd go about finding the Electrostatic force or the number of elementary particles. Any help is appreciated.
 
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anyway you can post a diagram--or at least better describe the physical situation. You've done a lot of work and we would like to help..
 
OK, diagram coming up (If you can read my handwriting) Also, I misread the handout. I was looking for the number of elementary charges, not particles. I know how to do that, so I only need help with the electrostatic force.

diagram.jpg
 
For electrostatic force, use the equation:

F=[1/(4*pi*e0)]*[abs(Q1)*abs(Q2)]r^2

where e0 is the permittivity of free space.

and r is the distance between the charges. Just find the distance between the balloons (which can be solved with some elementary trig) and you have your answer.
 
Ok, thanks.
 
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