Elevation of Sun above water surface

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The problem involves determining the actual elevation angle of the Sun above the horizontal as perceived by an underwater scuba diver, given an apparent angle and the index of refraction of water.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Snell's law and question the values being used in calculations, particularly the apparent angle of 44.5° and its conversion.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the steps taken in the calculations and questioning the values used. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the original poster's approach, and some participants are attempting to verify their own calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the initial angle used in the calculations, with participants questioning the source of the 43° value and discussing the implications of the apparent angle of 44.5° above the horizontal.

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Homework Statement



An underwater scuba diver sees the Sun at an apparent angle of 44.5° above the horizontal. What is the actual elevation angle of the Sun above the horizontal? (Use 1.333 for the index of refraction of water.)

Homework Equations



n1sin(Θ1) = n2sin(Θ2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I've been doing:

1.333*sin(43) = .9091

sin-1(.9091)= 65.38

90-65.38 = 24.62 degrees

Where am I going wrong?? The answer is 12.9 degrees, but every time I try to do it, I get 24.62 degrees.
 
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Where does the 43 come from?

I get 18 degrees.
 
mfb said:
Where does the 43 come from?

I get 18 degrees.


What are the steps you're taking?
 
agarb said:
what are the steps you're taking?
90-44.5 = ?
 
Agarb said:
What are the steps you're taking?
The same steps as you, just with the right numbers. See the open question in post 2 and 4.
 
I don't understand where you see a 43?
 
Agarb said:

The Attempt at a Solution



I've been doing:

1.333*sin(43[/size]) = .9091

sin-1(.9091)= 65.38

90-65.38 = 24.62 degrees

Where am I going wrong?? The answer is 12.9 degrees, but every time I try to do it, I get 24.62 degrees.
I highlighted it.
 
Shoot sorry, I copied it over and forgot to change it. It should be 44.5

But I still don't get the correct answer
 
Agarb said:
Shoot sorry, I copied it over and forgot to change it. It should be 44.5
No, not that either: 44.5° above the horizontal
 
  • #10
haruspex said:
No, not that either: 44.5° above the horizontal

What does that mean?? I tried 90-44.5 and 180-44.5 but it doesn't work. Am I going crazy??
 
  • #11
Agarb said:
I tried 90-44.5
That should do it. Please post you working.
 

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