Eliminating a variable from system of ODE's

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The discussion revolves around a system of ordinary differential equations (ODEs) where participants are attempting to eliminate a variable, specifically focusing on the variable h in relation to g and its derivatives.

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  • Participants discuss solving for h in the dg/dt equation and substituting it into the dh/dt equation. There are inquiries about the next steps to satisfy the relations given in the problem. Some participants suggest differentiating the expression for h and substituting that into the original equations.

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The discussion is active with participants exploring different expressions for h and its derivatives. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation of h and its substitution into the equations, but there are also indications of potential mistakes that need clarification.

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There are mentions of confusion regarding the use of constants a1 and a2, and participants express challenges with LaTeX formatting. The original equations and their transformations are under scrutiny, indicating a need for careful interpretation of the relationships between the variables.

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The writing below the equation is the correct order of the constants directly above it.

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] h=\frac{-g\prime-a_1g+E(t)}{a_2}[/tex]

So I solved for h in the dg/dt equation, and plug this into the h in the dh/dt equation. My question is where do I go from here to satisfy the relation given in the problem above.
 
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gabriels-horn said:

Homework Statement



View attachment 25711 The writing below the equation is the correct order of the constants directly above it.

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] h=\frac{-g\prime-a_1g+E(t)}{a_2}[/tex]

So I solved for h in the dg/dt equation, and plug this into the h in the dh/dt equation. My question is where do I go from here to satisfy the relation given in the problem above.
Now you want to differentiate your expression for h and plug that result into the LHS of the dh/dt equation to get everything in terms of g and its derivatives.
 
vela said:
Now you want to differentiate your expression for h and plug that result into the LHS of the dh/dt equation to get everything in terms of g and its derivatives.

So [tex] h=\frac{-g\prime-a_1g+E(t)}{a_2}[/tex]

becomes

[tex] h\prime=-g\prime\prime-g\prime+E\prime(t)[/tex]

which replaces dh/dt in the original equation?
 
You made a few mistakes. What happened to a1 and a2?
 
vela said:
You made a few mistakes. What happened to a1 and a2?

sorry, still trying to get used to latex

[tex]h\prime=\frac{-g\prime\prime-a_1g\prime+E\prime(t)}{a_2}[/tex]

So this result replaces the left hand side of the dh/dt equation in the original system.

Also, dg/dt from the original equation [tex]dg/dt=-a_1g-a_2h+E(t)[/tex]
becomes

[tex]g\prime\prime=-a_1g\prime-a_2h\prime+E\prime[/tex]

and plug in dh/dt into this equation, making

[tex]g\prime\prime=-a_1g\prime-a_2(-a_3g+a_4h)+E\prime[/tex]
 
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