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The discussion revolves around factoring quadratics, specifically addressing the challenge of handling negative coefficients in the quadratic expression -x² + 4x - 3. The original poster expresses difficulty in recalling the appropriate methods for factoring such expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods for factoring the quadratic, including the use of the quadratic formula and factoring out the negative coefficient. Questions arise regarding the treatment of the negative sign when factoring and whether it can be ignored under certain conditions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on how to approach the factoring process. Some guidance has been provided regarding the implications of factoring out the negative sign, and there is an exploration of multiple interpretations of the problem.

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The original poster indicates a lapse in practice with quadratic equations, which may contribute to the confusion regarding negative coefficients. There is also a mention of a potential homework constraint regarding the need to factor the polynomial correctly.

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I've forgotten how to factor quadratics.

Not all of them mind. I've just forgotten how to deal with these sorts:

-x2+4x-3

for example.

I forget how to deal with the negative coefficient in front of a.
I just fell out of doing this stuff and forgot over time.
 
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for ax^2 + bx + c = 0;

solutions are = -b +/- sqrt (b^2 - 4ac ) /2a
 
You could factor out the negative
-(x2 - 4x + 3)
and factor what's in the parentheses, or look at the factors of -1 and -3 and find two pairs that add up to 4.
 
Well I remember the quadratic formula. I also remember being taught a manual method of solving these, like seeing what factors of c add to get b. I just forget how to handle negative coefficients on the a term using that method.

EDIT: Your post just slipped in right before I hit post on this. I'll give it a try.

Ok, so do I just ignore the negative that I factored out entirely? I guess I could since the roots would still be the same...
 
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Ok, so do I just ignore the negative that I factored out entirely? I guess I could since the roots would still be the same...
 
If the polynomial is set equal to zero, then sure, you just ignore the negative. It's like multiplying both sides of the equation by -1.

If it's not set equal to zero... well, I'm not sure what you'd be trying to do :-/ If you're just trying to factor the polynomial (e.g. if a problem says "factor this polynomial"), you do need to keep the negative sign. You could either keep the sign out in front, or after you've factored the polynomial without the sign, just absorb the sign into one of the factors. So for example:
[tex]\begin{align*}-x^2 + 3x - 2 \\<br /> -(x^2 -3x + 2) \\<br /> -(x-2)(x-1)\end{align*}[/tex]
That would be the answer if you just leave the sign out in front, or if you prefer to absorb it back in, either
[tex](-x+2)(x-1)[/tex]
or
[tex](x-2)(-x+1)[/tex]
 
Alright, thanks for the help guys!
 

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