End Behaviour of ƒ(x) = √(x2+x) - x: Calculating Asymptotes with Derivatives

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The discussion focuses on determining the end behavior of the function ƒ(x) = √(x² + x) - x. Participants emphasize the importance of evaluating limits as x approaches positive and negative infinity to identify asymptotes. It is clarified that while taking the derivative may be useful, the primary task is to analyze the limits directly. The function can be rewritten to reveal that as x approaches infinity, small correction terms affect the limit, preventing it from equaling zero. Understanding these correction terms is crucial for accurately determining the function's limiting behavior.
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Homework Statement


Determine the end behaviour of the function ƒ(x) = √(x2+x) - x

Homework Equations


Not quite sure, but I suppose f'(x) would be useful?

The Attempt at a Solution


Essentially what I did was take the derivative of f(x), however I was unsure as to how one would take the limit of the derivative as x approaches positive or negative infinity (to see if f(x) has any asymptotes). Thanks in advance for any help, sorry if I explained this poorly.
 
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Hello MM, :welcome:

Thanks for introducing this "end behaviour" term to me; I didn't know about it :nb) .
I suppose you are interested in limits to ##\pm\infty## .

Mathematically said:

Homework Equations


Not quite sure, but I suppose f'(x) would be useful?
Not exactly an equation, is it ? What does it give you when ##x\rightarrow +\infty ## ?

I suppose you are interested in limits to ##\pm\infty## .
For ##+\infty##, how can you rewrite f(x) ?
 
Mathematically said:

Homework Statement


Determine the end behaviour of the function ƒ(x) = √(x2+x) - x

Homework Equations


Not quite sure, but I suppose f'(x) would be useful?

The Attempt at a Solution


Essentially what I did was take the derivative of f(x), however I was unsure as to how one would take the limit of the derivative as x approaches positive or negative infinity (to see if f(x) has any asymptotes). Thanks in advance for any help, sorry if I explained this poorly.

$$\sqrt{x^2+x}-x = \sqrt{x^2} \left(1 + \frac{1}{x} \right)^{1/2} -x = |x| \left(1 + \frac{1}{x} \right)^{1/2} -x $$
What happens to ##(1+z)^{1/2}## for small ##z = 1/x##?
 
Mathematically said:

Homework Statement


Determine the end behaviour of the function ƒ(x) = √(x2+x) - x

Homework Equations


Not quite sure, but I suppose f'(x) would be useful?
Not really. For the end behavior, all you need to do is to evaluate the limits ##\lim_{x \to \infty}f(x)## and ##\lim_{x \to -\infty}f(x)##.
Mathematically said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Essentially what I did was take the derivative of f(x), however I was unsure as to how one would take the limit of the derivative as x approaches positive or negative infinity (to see if f(x) has any asymptotes). Thanks in advance for any help, sorry if I explained this poorly.
 
Ray Vickson said:
$$\sqrt{x^2+x}-x = \sqrt{x^2} \left(1 + \frac{1}{x} \right)^{1/2} -x = |x| \left(1 + \frac{1}{x} \right)^{1/2} -x $$
What happens to ##(1+z)^{1/2}## for small ##z = 1/x##?

So as x approaches infinity, will (1+1/x)^(1/2) approach 1? Thus, the function approaches |x| - x ?
 
Mathematically said:
So as x approaches infinity, will (1+1/x)^(1/2) approach 1? Thus, the function approaches |x| - x ?

Yes, as ##x \to +\infty## we have ##(1+ 1/x)^{1/2} \to 1##, but for large ##x>0## (not yet at ##x = \infty##) there will be some small correction terms; that is,
$$\left(1 + \frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2} = 1 + \text{small correction terms}$$
for large ##x##. Don't forget that we multiply ##(1 + 1/x)^{1/2}## by ##|x|##, so we multiply the small correction terms by the large value of ##|x|##. The result of doing that will be something that does NOT go to zero as ##x## goes to ##\infty##. You need to figure out what the main part of the small correction term actually is, in order to arrive at a correct limiting behavior. If you did not do that you would arrive at ##\lim_{x \to \infty} \: x \cdot 1 - x = 0##, and that is not the right answer.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Yes, as ##x \to +\infty## we have ##(1+ 1/x)^{1/2} \to 1##, but for large ##x>0## (not yet at ##x = \infty##) there will be some small correction terms; that is,
$$\left(1 + \frac{1}{x}\right)^{1/2} = 1 + \text{small correction terms}$$
for large ##x##. Don't forget that we multiply ##(1 + 1/x)^{1/2}## by ##|x|##, so we multiply the small correction terms by the large value of ##|x|##. The result of doing that will be something that does NOT go to zero as ##x## goes to ##\infty##. You need to figure out what the main part of the small correction term actually is, in order to arrive at a correct limiting behavior. If you did not do that you would arrive at ##\lim_{x \to \infty} \: x \cdot 1 - x = 0##, and that is not the right answer.

Ah, I see. That makes sense although I am not sure how to actually go about doing that; my knowledge of calculus is very very limited. I think my teacher is showing us his solution soon so hopefully it will become clear. Thanks so much for the help! :smile:
 
If you want to do some reconnoitering: Do sqrt(1.01) , sqrt(1.001) sqrt(1.0001) etc on your calculator. Or peek at the Taylor series for ##\ \sqrt{1+\epsilon}\ \ \ ##.
 

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